In a rare instance of bipartisan alarm, Republican-chaired committees in the House and Senate announced that they have launched inquiries into an explosive Washington Post report alleging Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had given a spoken order to “kill everybody” aboard a vessel carrying suspected drug traffickers in the Caribbean. The occupants included two people who had survived an initial missile strike on the vessel and were seen “clinging” to the wreckage.
“We take seriously the reports of follow-on strikes on boats alleged to be ferrying narcotics in the SOUTHCOM region and are taking bipartisan action to gather a full accounting of the operation in question,” the leaders of the House Armed Services Committee said in a joint statement on Friday.
“The Committee has directed inquiries to the [Department of Defense], and we will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to these circumstances,” leaders in the Senate Armed Services Committee said.
The September 2 attack kicked off what has now been nearly two dozen attacks, killing at least 83 people, who the US military claims, without evidence, had been attempting to smuggle drugs into the US. The attacks, which President Trump justifies as a part of an “armed conflict” with drug cartels, have been likened to extrajudicial killings.
Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona told CNN on Sunday that Hegseth’s actions, as reported by the Post, appear to be a war crime.
“If what has been reported is accurate, I’ve got serious concerns about anybody in that chain of command stepping over a line that they should never step over,” Kelly said. “We are not Russia. We are not Iraq. We hold ourselves to a very high standard of professionalism.”
Kelly is locked in a related battle of words with Hegseth after Kelly participated in a social media video with five other Democrats seeking to remind members of the military that they can “refuse illegal orders.”
Hegseth has blasted the *Post’*s reporting on the missile strikes as “fabricated.”
“As usual, the fake news is delivering more fabricated, inflammatory, and derogatory reporting to discredit our incredible warriors fighting to protect the homeland,” he wrote on X.
Ah yes, ye olde “I’m not responsible for those under me” excuse that SECRETARY OF
DEFENSEWAR CRIMES Rumsfeld wheeled out after the whole Abu Ghraib thing. It worked then. It’ll work this time, too.And I just want to point out that the military followed this, clearly illegal, order without hesitation…
Muricans, the military is not going to save you from the horrendous mistake you made by empowering the idiot king and his jesters
They’ll be taking the fall right alongside.
America has a long long history of war crimes… I hope I’m wrong but I doubt much will come from this other than someone losing a job just to get a better one in a hush deal
Hey guys, guess what? I’m from the future. Here’s what happened: They launched an investigation, found out he did exactly that and then…nothing fucking happened. You’re welcome.
Hey now, you’re leaving out the letter they put together which strongly recommends that he resign of his own free will, despite having no obligation to do so.
Oh yeah, old Schumer fell asleep in the middle of reading it to them and wagging his finger.
So Trump is not in jail? Supposed to happen in 2015!
There is a reason he wants everyone on those boats dead. No survivors means no one to refute the claim that they weren’t just fishermen, but drug runners.
There no other logical reason to “blow apart” people clinging to debris after being hit by a rocket.
I was just thinking they could be testing the waters on this whole illegal order thing.
If they can get away with this, it dampens the whole don’t follow illegal order stuff going on.
Edit: Like if nobody involved in that chain of command, gets punished, then the whole don’t follow illegal orders becomes more moot. They have to hold someone accountable to show it’s true, and they likely won’t do that, and if they can’t punish something like this, what’s going to happen to that kid who refuses an order to shoot at a crowd of protesters who are ANTIFA terrorists. This was people clinging onto a wreckage to stay alive.
Ryan Mcbeth( guy on YouTube that does military work) did a break down of what is a war crime, legal, and illegal. https://youtu.be/ZFjHzuH7CyI It is worth a watch to it is informative.
That’s a pretty fair take from him. Just remember he’s a Newsmax guy.
Just remember he’s a Newsmax guy.
News Axe guy.

By chance is he on any other platform? I try and avoid YouTube like it’s a disease.
He has a sub stack but I don’t know exactly what that is exactly
I feel like I’m missing something, but why is saying “kill everybody” crossing a line for the Republicans? When you shoot missiles at a boat it kinda feels like you’re already trying to kill everyone?
Because the implication of “kill everybody” is that surrender will be refused, and issuing such a “no quarter” order is a war crime.
This is shortly after Hegseth fired a few judge advocate generals (military lawyers ish) since he viewed them as potential “roadblocks to orders that are given by a commander-in-chief.”
That’s kinda my point though, to me both those incidents are small potatoes in comparison to bombing random boats in international water.
Why do those small new details make the Republicans concerned when they were okay with bombing/killing random people (which I’m pretty sure is already a war crime)?
Because there is a fig leaf of legality over the bombing.
The excuse they run is that they have designated the cartel as a terrorist organisation (this stretches the definition of terrorism past breaking point), they have asserted that the boats are operated by the cartel (this is heavily disputed) and they suggest that terrorists “attacking” the US by importing drugs are enemy combatants and legitimate military targets.
All of this is insane, but republicans have been going along with it with varying levels of enthusiasm.
The problem here is that even if you buy the justification that marks the occupants or the boats as enemy combatants, that still doesn’t legally permit war crimes.
The republicans in question agree with the method to paint them as enemy combatants, but don’t agree that war crimes are acceptable against enemy combatants.
Thanks, I appreciate the info/perspective.
Based on that reasoning it sounds like Republicans are okay with “accidentally” committing a war crime, but if done flagrantly then they have a problem.
Everybody is a set of people that includes themselves.
It’s because they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and now they need to distract from the cookies they’ve already taken.
The September 2 attack kicked off what has now been nearly two dozen attacks, killing at least 83 people,
Fuck, the death toll is already that high?
Jesus H. Christ.
Four people per boat on average. The number of attacks and we’re just now getting around to questioning them, that’s the appalling part.
I mean, many of us questioned the attacks from the start.
One problem of many is that to most of the American electorate, foreign affairs might as well be an exotic variety of cheese for all they understand it.
Yes, “we” meaning mainstream media and public. I do remember the first news and thinking wtf.
Ah, yes, of course. Sorry, lmao.
Public discourse about politics in this country is so fucked.
Everyday morning the American public wakes up to at least a dozen new infractions. We elected a criminal. We can’t keep track of all the crimes.
This is the Trump method. Fuck up everything until you make it all wallpaper and anger is fragmented.
Wait until they carpet bomb Caracas.
I mean it’s harder for dead people to prove they’re not actually narco traffickers.
No witnesses. No evidence. Trust us, bro.
I thought it was Jesus Fucking Christ?
“We are not Russia. We are not Israel”
There. FIFY, coward
In truth, we are no better than either. Not one iota.
When I heard they were putting an alcoholic rapist in charge of the DoD, I was really hoping for more Kash Money shenanigans, and less war crimey shenanigans.
Put this motherfucker in prison.
Yeah…sure. right beside Bush.
And nothing will come of it just like the Epstein files.
“We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing” -future headline
But he seemed so qualified, Fox News barker and all. /s
Awesome, do it now so the federal charges can be pardoned by the Cankles in Charge.













