I hate that this response lead with “I agree”. To me, the r word is repulsive. I hear what you’re saying about “it didn’t used to mean what it’s come to mean”. But folks use the same argument to fly the swastika and use the n word. I get where you’re coming from. But word of advice: try taking arguments that you want to use to defend one thing and see what kinds of things you don’t agree with you could use the same argument for. Legitimately a fun mental exercise and amazing way to pre-check your arguments.

By this logic fat shaming is acceptable? Some people naturally have faster or slower metabolisms. But anybody can have healthy or unhealthy body weights. Some just have to work harder at it. So if somebody has a naturally fast metabolism but chooses to eat and exercise like Trump does, it’s ok to make fun of them for their weight?

This. I think this is where that line is that I’m still trying to dial in on. To some extent, intelligence is under our control (this is why “you’re being ignorant” is legit. Some idiocy (or lack of education?) is by choice). So, maybe it’s fine to mock somebody for remaining willfully ignorant. But not ok if they’re intellectually less capable due medical/biological factors?

No wonder it’s a blurry line. This shit is ambiguous af.

Right. This is what I was talking about. I (and I suspect others) oftentimes want to name call a person and not only point out their evil but also point out their incompetence and inability. Both of which usually have some intelligence component.

It seems reasonable to berate an evil person when they can’t even be evil competently.

But we can’t (or shouldn’t) because it indirectly (or directly) makes fun of people who are perfectly good people who are unintelligent.

Again. I get it. Probably just showing my bias and yet another fuckin thing to unlearn.

I’m guessing it’s not just cognitive abilities either? “Tripped over his own dick” is offense to folks with motor control problems. Etc etc.

Therefore the only thing you can make fun of is a person’s evilness. Not their incompetence (because all incompetence is presumed to be from natural causes that aren’t their fault)

I still have such dissonance about this. I want to say “Look at this idiot” and point out something unintelligent that an objectively evil person does. But because intelligence is an inherited trait, we can only use negative language when referring to a person for evil that they do by choice? Or something? So, evil people bumbling can only be mocked for the evil intent and not for their inability to be evil with skill and intelligence?

I dunno. Trump is a numpty and if that offends the numps or whatever group that term was originally a slur for then I apologize.

edit: to be clear, the r word seems objectively shitty to use and I don’t. I just have yet to find an objective litmus test for where the line is between that and “silly” cuz I swear there’s always someone there to explain the etymology of “silly” and how it’s origins were shitty in some way

I haven’t played a GTA game since 3ish. Had been thinking “maybe I’ll jump back in when 6 launches”.

Thanks for the info. Maybe I’ll just continue playing the million other games in my backlog. Fuck AAAA greed.

I think I found where OP got all those extra commas. Must have stolen them from this poor poster.

_ No offense. Just playing_

No way. If I’ve ever seen a “hold me back bro. I’m serious bro” dog breed, it’d be the chihuahia

edit: oh. I guess under the right circumstances those could be the same

What a wild counter-idea. “Go back in time and kill Hitler”: played out. “Go back in time and clash with the invading aliens who have sent their own people back in time to destroy us from the past by installing players that will wreck us as a species over time”: oh. As I say it, this is half-way to This is How You Lose the Time War

Or “15 Step” from In Rainbows? That entire album was amazing

Whenever I come across one of these lemmy.ml posts where this general topic of leftists shitting on western libs comes up, it always makes me curious.

I understand what y’all hate. I regularly hear what doesn’t work (voting). But I never hear a concise, specific, tactical thing that I as an individual could do.

Sometimes I’ll see very generic notes about how “nothing’s ever going to change until a unified, violent, upheaval happens”, but that’s about the closest I’ve ever seen.

So please. Indulge me. I’m a US lefty lib. What should I be doing if I want to help leftist causes (pro-labor / break up corporations / etc).

Because I swear to gods. According to folks here:

• voting? Doesn’t work
• donating? You’ll never outspend
• grass roots whatever? They’ll stomp you out
• acts of coordinated violence? We’d never say that explicitly

What then? I hate the current trajectory of my country and feel helpless to change anything with the tools I have at hand. Give me one practical thing I can do to help unfuck this mess.

(And to the FBI listening in. I’d never do anything illegal based on advice of Internet strangers. I just wanna hear them say, out loud, what I think they really want to say)

It’s easy if you don’t know how shitty the other 90% have it. That’s the thing about privilege. The folks who have it assume that everybody has it like they do (i.e. that privilege isn’t really a thing, everybody has equal opportunity, racism is dead, etc).

Doesn’t it though? “You’re pretty X for a Y” assume X people aren’t Y naturally. Fill in the blanks for smart : woman :: attractive : trans

The folks saying that this is ablesist. I hear you and I think I mostly agree. But this is one I kind of struggle on. Which “haha person is stupid” kinds of things are making fun of people who are mentally handicapped? And which ones are just making fun of people for being plain old stupid? Or is it ablesist to say that a person behaving stupidly is stupid?

Like, if you’re making a meme and want to portray the anti-vaxer or nazi or whatever as being stupid or cruel or whatever, how do you do that without being ablesist? (“Inteligence is biological”, “psychopathy is a disease”, etc)

edit: oh whoops. And fuck tankies. Forgot to add that