Gimme a game where I just change settings and load orders. I don’t want to actually play a game, I want to move sliders, click check boxes, and scroll through drop down menus. The lizard part of my brain yearns for simple tasks
“Skyrim is a game played on Nexus Mods, in which you try to assemble and run an optimal combination of mods.”
Also Assetto Corsa is all about mods, even the game’s menu is replaced with a third-party launcher. I mostly drive the same few cars, but I have about 150 GB of tracks. Most impressively, people added stuff that wasn’t in the engine originally: changing time of day, including night, and weather like rain. And it was done by one guy, with further improvements by others.
I only became good at modding Skyrim when I began to regularly finish playthroughs and enjoy each subsequent playthrough more than the last. This is also when I realized I had played too much Skyrim.
Sounds like you should just play more 4x games instead of trying to turn games like Fallout into something they aren’t.
Edit: or maybe something like Kenshi.
My problem with 4x is I am too stupid to ever win the end game. Or so my time with Stellaris tells me. That early and mid game was pretty fun, though. But anyways, I’ll never be too dumb to waltz into an orc encampment, slaughter them all, and clear out their mines just to bump my smithing skill up a bit.
For me it’s the problem solving of modding that’s fun, I like the troubleshooting process, and the moment when you finally get the game to run smoothly with your set of mods is veery satisfying.
To each their own, it just seems like the crux of this post is ‘man I sure wish modding wasn’t as complicated’. Which, as far as both you and I are concerned, kind of defeats the point of modding.
I’m of the opinion that modding is fun, both the process and the finished result. Even if it can be kind of a pain in the ass sometimes.
4x doesn’t scratch that same itch. Kenshi is fun. Very weird but also very fun, unless I make my base in the wrong place and some weeaboos with tin hats keep dabbing away with my bread baskets. Fuck the Black Dragon Ninjas
Yeah, that I can understand. I realized that there are many more similarities between Fallout and Kenshi than there are between Fallout and 4x games.
Have you tried Caves of Qud?
I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never played it
May or may not be your thing, it’s hard to find games that check all the boxes. Caves of Qud is rough in some ways, very very deep experience but rough.
Fuck lmao this one got me.
Got everything setup again after doing a new build in February. Now trying to muster the energy to do the same on my steam deck.
Well, it would be pretty easy to automatically do an install in the VivaNewVegas way…
But! NexusMods says money pwease!!!
Alternatively, yeah, you could just make a mod load ordering simulator game…
Just proc gen a made up directory/filestructure, and made up mods, orders, file conflicts, dependencies.
And, of course, that game itself has to be moddable.
But if detects any changes to its real file system, it just does a fork bomb or something, I dunno lol.
Interesting concept but uhhh who’d be the target audience for that?
I mean, that is more or less literally what OP requested, a game that just is the mod manager itself.
Like just literally read the first line of the body of what they wrote, not just the title.
Its kind of similar to how ‘PC Build Simulator’ is kind of meta in the same way, its a whole game about building PCs … which you play on your PC, instead of just, actually building a PC.
Ha, you got me. Totally didn’t notice the body. My b. Anyway this sounds like a cool project… lemme see how viable this is.
play any game that has a good mod manager. for example any game on thunderstore/r2modman, Minecraft with prism launcher, balatro, etc
Mod Organizer 2 my beloved!
THATS WHY YOU DO IT!
Modding Cyberpunk 2077 is a large part of the experience for me, but every time the devs update the game it all breaks down. Hundreds of mods! Fucking original developers adding features and content to the game, please stop adding stuff inspired by mods - Your version is lame and tame AND it breaks the game for a few days while the rest of the world rushes to update their mod framework.
CP2077 is my favorite game ever, but since nothing compared I only played CP2077. And when the devs “Hooray surprise update to break your mods despite us claiming no more content!” over and over it literally killed my gaming hobby.
Haven’t really gamed for a few years as I simply don’t care about being locked into the “developer experience” formed by corpo guidelines by faceless investors.
At the moment I don’t see me bother to game until a new Elderscrolls, Fallout or Cyberpunk game is released. Then we mod again!
It could be worse.
… You could be trying to mod Fallout 4.
Dear god, what a shitshow, entirely on Bethesda’s end.
The only time I’ve spent more time modding and researching and all that for NV compared to actually playing was when a long time ago I got Dust up and running on my desktop. It’s hard enough for me to only play it in pretty small bursts.
StewiesTweaks takes care of most of my gameplay needs to the point that I haven’t felt much need to explore other such mods. Power armor underwhelming? Stewie. Tired of inventory management? Stewie. Want pickpocket and thievery to be a more robust strategy? Believe it or not, Stewie. Hate the hacking minigame and are so incredibly good at lockpicking that it all might as well be a skill check? Stewie has it for you.
I mostly like mods that add new functionality or more content that I’ll genuinely enjoy. Viva covered so many bases that there isn’t much I actually want. The base game is already built around a lot of the features I would normally add into mainline Bethesda games like player choice, weapon variety, and even ammo types, so there isn’t much need expand on them with poorly integrated versions of them.
The only major improvement I would want is graphical, but the outdated engine makes such improvements fundamentally limited. Besides, some of my favorite shooters are from the 90s and I don’t think the graphical improvements of the last 10 years have been groundbreaking, so I’m fine with it looking worse that Source Engine games.
