Sure, we have open source, federated replacements for Instagram, Tiktok, and YouTube. How do we get creators to use this stuff? One consideration involves the ability to pay for things.

I’ve been thinking a lot recently about PeerTube, Loops, Bandwagon, and other platforms in the Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.

Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.

  • moonshadow@slrpnk.net
    3·
    12 hours ago

    Hard pass on the core concept here. I’m really enjoying a community of people just posting because they want to, it’s like the internet I grew up with and loved. Why would would you want to bring in people trying to squeeze a buck out of that? Growth isn’t an inherently good thing

    • 0xtero@beehaw.org
      2·
      4 hours ago

      I tend to agree. We won’t have any “content creators” because it’s so hard to monetize fedi - and that’s a good thing! Instead we have people who post stuff they like and are interested in. It’s far better system. No ads, no “influencing”.

      However, it would be great if we could create a better model for sharing hosting costs somehow - bandwidth and servers are not cheap when serving video. Donations work to an extent, but it’s always a shaky system based on kindness of select few.

  • 🇨🇦Samuel Proulx🇨🇦AEnglish
    62·
    15 hours ago

    Or: maybe we can just keep paid influencer scams off the fediverse entirely? IMHO we don’t need or want paid content creators here. As soon as someone can make a buck from it, the entire network will be flooded with clickbait, AI generated posts, and worse.

  • JoYo@lemmy.mlEnglish
    21·
    11 hours ago

    Bro, I can’t even get people to watch a video that isn’t YouTube or Instagram. I PAY money to host these videos. Absolutely no one is going to commercialize the fedi.

  • 0xtero@beehaw.org
    4·
    1 day ago

    Surely the ability to pay for things exists already in many forms/platforms.

    But one thing that’s missing is central financing from the platform itself. The “big tech” is running wild with advertising money and this is what fuels the rapid growth.

    Things like Nebula seem to work (creator owned business that offers paid subscriptions), but I’m not sure how many Nebula-exclusive creators there are, I have a feeling most of them publish stuff on YouTube as well.

    Mastodon and Lemmy communities work on donations, but most of them just trundle along barely covering hosting costs.

    I guess, in theory, it would be possible to create a PeerTube/Loops server that monetizes everything with ads, but I’m a bit skeptical of that unless you have very deep start-up VC money behind you to get you off the ground.

    We’ve had micropayment/-donation sites like Flattr, but it never took off for real.

    I think the core problem is trying to make people to pay for the content/service/membership. Most don’t. I don’t think that would change even if the option was integrated into platforms.

      • 0xtero@beehaw.org
        1·
        4 hours ago

        I know. I meant it as a potential model for income (a platform owned by creators collective), it was just an example