I noticed that some people just have an extreme hatred for furries.
I have a friend and I would not call him a generally intolerant person at all, he knows I am homosexual and never cared unlike all other people I have ever told about that(around 6 people), but he has an extreme hatred for anything furry. Like on the level of “All furries should be killed” not the usual shit we can read on the internet.

I do not understand it, but there is really no way to get him to any not as extreme standpoint.

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    I thought hating on furries was a 4chan meme that became a tiktok meme.

    But I’ve a few reasons why that meme may have gained traction. Firstly it’s not a sexuality like homosexuality. It’s more of a fetish, and people make fun of fetishes all the time - see feet, or, idk, midget. I’m sure some maintain its not sexual, but the community overwhelmingly is. Second, it has associations with beastiality. Now I’d assume the vast majority of furries don’t harbour sexual attractions to real animals, but it’s certainly on that side of the Venn diagram, which may cause some concern. Finally people involved generally seem to be social outcasts. You don’t see many captain of the football team furries or cheerleader furries. If school kids are already picking on the weebs and the nerds, finding out some of them dress up like animals and hang out is fuel for the fire.

    As for calls to killing furries, I’d wager the majority of that is just joining in on the meme. I’m sure furries would get bullied at school, but as for vehement violence I doubt it transcends the bullying that the D&D kids receive. Not that I condone any violence or bullying towards anyone, furries included. But if you were wondering why people dislike em, maybe this helps.

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      It’s more of a fetish

      I would not say its a fetish, but a fetish can be attached to it. First and foremost its simply a liking for antro characters in e general sense.
      And about sexuality, which is certainly the point where people show the most hate. Furries are into human based fanatsy characters with a wild mix of features, from nature inspired to completely made up and that with a great emphasis on the human base of the character.

      Finally people involved generally seem to be social outcasts.

      A great amount of us are aspergers, me as well. We are by nature social outcasts and the target of everyone that can somehow have power over us. So its neither getting worse nor better.

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    It’s primarily cringe culture. Some people choose to make themselves feel powerful by bullying and harassing others, and furries are often “easy targets.”

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      I think this is the answer.

      The furries i have met irl seemed to be disproportionately socially awkward, and some people in the wider geek culture around them seemed to delight in having someone to look down on as less than.

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    My guess is it’s pretty similar to drag hate.

    Someone has a discomfort with blurring certain boundaries in society, and they express it as violent eliminationism — especially after being encouraged to do so as an “acceptable target” by bullies, propagandists, or other haters.

    Just as with drag costuming & performance, furry is not itself a sex practice — but it’s often closely connected with queer sexualities.

    Furrydom also applies queerness to things that many folks feel protective of, such as cute animals, and characters that are (or appear to be) from children’s media. That triggers the “queers are pedophiles” delusion, which is not new — look up Anita Bryant but has been heavily popularized by fascists of late.

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    I might get downvoted to hell but here goes. Unironically roleplaying as animals by wearing costumes and finding that sexually stimulating is fucking weird man.

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      Let’s assume that it is “fucking weird, man,” for the purpose of this discussion. Please walk me from there to hating furries.

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      If you think that is unacceptably weird, then you seen nothing. Though the portion of people who can afford such costumes that start at 20k and are into adult roleplaying with that is tiny.

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      Yeah it’s weird, but it’s somebodies good fun. I’m not into it but hell, if they are have at it. No need to get angry about it.

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    I think there was a wide and deep vein of “look at these fucking weirdos” that shaped a lot of early aughts internet gathering places. I’m thinking of Something Awful in particular but the phenomenon was certainly a lot more widespread than SA.

    While “look at these fucking weirdos” was by no means confined to dunking on furries, I feel like for whatever reason furries kind of became the highest profile subculture to be brought to wider, mainstream attention—and derision—during this era. I vividly remember poking around on SA when I was in college circa 2003-04 and there was a lot of anti-furry sentiment (much of it grounded in the assumption that for all furries everywhere furridom was exclusively a sex thing.) Eventually that anti-furry sentiment was felt across the internet. LiveJournal, for example, was home to a lot of furries but also to a lot of furry-hating trolls.

    The internet in the first decade of the new millennium was a deeply weird place. For a good (though extremely distressing!) overview of how and why places like SA became what they did, the Behind the Bastards series on Chris Chan is solid. It’s not furry-related, but a similar “let’s gather around and gawk at and eventually harass and provoke this fucking weirdo” thing played out in Chris Chan’s “discovery” by Something Awful. I’ll put a link below with a caveat that basically every type of content warning you can imagine applies to these episodes , though imho Robert Evans and Margaret Killjoy handle the Chris Chan story with as much sensitivity and compassion as one could hope.

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    It’s a knee-jerk disgust reaction towards any group different from the norm. Furries are also overwhelming queer, so homophobia ties a lot into it.

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    It’s cringe culture, the same reason people make fun of weebs or anyone else who goes outside of the “norm”. There’s also the issue that some people think that it’s too childish or too sexual (or both at once, somehow)

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    My guess is that they confuse furries with people who are sexually attracted to animals or animal characteristics.

    In reality, furries are people who partially or fully identify with what native people would have called their spirit animal and modern furries call their fursona (except with more or less human features, because they meld what they see as their spirit animal with their human self).

    But because drawings of fursonae exist, rule 34 ensures that there is porn of them. Some people really like that kind of porn, unrelated to whether they’re furries or not, and I believe it is those people the hate is directed at.

    As for why, I would guess it’s something like “how dare you sexualise animals!” (or maybe even a subconscious “how dare you make a drawing of what I believe is supposed to be an animal that is actually sexy to me!”, similar to how some conservatives are so vehemently against homosexuality because they secretly feel tempted, and then get caught at a gay orgy later). And/or they see it as something like a gateway drug to bestiality (sexual abuse towards animals).

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      But because drawings of fursonae exist, rule 34 ensures that there is porn of them. Some people really like that kind of porn, unrelated to whether they’re furries or not, and I believe it is those people the hate is directed at.

      This would be my opinion. I’m neutral towards furries; I am not neutral towards the flood of porn that seems to make up the majority of my every (and often only) contact with the furry community and I’m honestly surprised that wouldn’t be the obvious answer. Do I get to see how those suits are crafted? No, I’ve never seen that. Saw a tiger getting railed in an elevator yesterday, though.

      It’s really not doing me any favors in the fediverse right now. I shouldn’t have to voluntarily search “yiff” every few days just to search for new things to preemptively block and I can’t turn NSFW off, either, without banning myself from my own medical subs.

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        This would be my opinion. I’m neutral towards furries; I am not neutral towards the flood of porn that seems to make up the majority of my every (and often only) contact with the furry community and I’m honestly surprised that wouldn’t be the obvious answer. Do I get to see how those suits are crafted?

        Those suits are incredibly expensive and they are trade secrets to the people who make them as they want to protect their market. Generally some people have them, and it may look like its the final goal of everyone in the community to own one of their character, but its not. Its a tiny amount of people who both want one and can effort the at least 20k€, like just a head costs around 5k€.

        No, I’ve never seen that. Saw a tiger getting railed in an elevator yesterday, though.
        It’s really not doing me any favors in the fediverse right now. I shouldn’t have to voluntarily search “yiff” every few days just to search for new things to preemptively block and I can’t turn NSFW off, either, without banning myself from my own medical subs.

        I see this as a general issue that magazines/communities can not be generally set as NSFW, only individual posts and people sometimes forget that. And you are not alone with that, I am also suffer from that because I would rather not see naked female ass in All. It is always something that annoys people if they see porn they do not like but do not pretend like you are the only one that is victim to that.

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    Take a walk around Furcadia, check out some user generated dreams, and report back to me what you find

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      Jesus, I haven’t heard the name “Furcadia” in like, 20 years. I wasn’t aware it was still in operation. I thought most of us had moved on to SL or VRchat.