• D_C@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Other than the fucktards part what exactly is Maga’ish in that comment?

    Did the us not have a vote?

    Should only other countries suffer the consequences of that vote, and the us population should be exempt from the actions of that vote? (or their inactions of them not voting/protest voting)

    The above comment was coarse, I agree. But it wasn’t incorrect in my view.

    Edit: yanks always trying to blame others for their fucking bullshit.

    • Eggyhead@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago
      1. Some of the US had a vote. Voter suppression tactics is pretty much how Trump eked out his 2nd “victory.” We had election interference: closing down poll stations in areas with low income people more likely to vote democratic, forcing them out of the election process through economic pressure. Passing rules that basically ensured you couldn’t vote unless you could take the whole day off and and be well fed for it (since people providing people water in line now broke the rules), long lines meant polls closed before everyone got to vote on Election Day, casting doubt on the integrity of the election and vote by mail system (which he’s still doing), making quid-pro-quo threats and demands for states to “find” votes, people finding their voter registrations mysteriously removed or changed, forcing them to reregister and possibly miss their chance to vote, rampant gerrymandering so democratic districts where divvied into majority Republican districts. Then there was foreign interference on social media, social manipulation experimentation from social media conglomerates like meta, domestic spying, met a new generation of e-propaganda… Trust me, most Americans know what he is and despise him. Real Americans are the people who brought you Friends and How I Met Your Mother. We believe in liberty and civil rights. We’re proud of our kinship with our historic allies, and now many of us ashamed to even admit we’re American when abroad. I lived in Malta for four years, and I was constantly referred to as “one of the good ones” because I wasn’t shy about my opinions on Trump. The more I ponder on this the longer this part of my response gets so I’ll leave it here.

      2. Nobody’s saying other countries should suffer consequences of US elections, it’s just an unfortunate circumstance of US global dominance. I believe other counties are doing the smart thing by reducing their reliance on US corporations and embracing more open-source alternatives. And anyone saying that Americans should be exempt from those consequences is irrelevant, because the fact of the matter is that Americans ARE suffering the consequences. People are getting brutalized and murdered by ICE in illegal raids, protesters are getting cataloged on ICE devices… which could be convenient for more voter suppression measures by the Trump regime.

      So let’s revisit the original question. What is maga’ish in that comment?

      It is dismissive, judgmental and standoffish. It is vengeful. It lacks understanding of cultural and historical context. It is narrow minded. It stereotypes all Americans into a singular group of voter. It encourages others to hate Americans.

      And finally, you’re not doing yourself any favors with the “yanks always…” crash out comment. This is precisely the kind of sentiment you’d expect a mag-hat would have if you just replace “yank” with the n word or some other derogatory term.

      Does this make sense?

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      You fundamentally misunderstandUnited States politics if you think Trump is responsible for making any important decisions. He is a combination between a scapegoat and a front man.

      If we had elected anyone else, the present international policies would be largely the same. It’s the beauty of a two party system that is financed by corporate lobbying.