• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Your paper doesn’t bother to define what these T-systems are

    Have a look here. Key concept is the adaptive traverse, Tn-system then means “a system with that many traverses”. What I meant with my comparison there is simply that a rock has a traverse less than a thermostat, and ChatGPT has a traverse less than us.

    They aren’t on the same scale, they’re different kinds of things.

    Addition, multiplication and exponentiation all are on the same scale, yet they’re different things. Regarding number of traverses it’s absolutely fair to say that it’s a scale of quality, not quantity.

    Human minds have actual sentience.

    Sentience as in the processing of the environment while processing your processing of that environment? Yep that sounds like a T3 system. Going out a bit on a limb, during deep sleep we regress to T2, while dreams are a funky “let’s pretend our conditioning/memory is the environment” state. Arachnids apparently can do it, and definitely all mammals. Insects seem to be T2 from the POV of my non-biologist ass.

    Everything else in that list is a device, created by humans, to do a specific task and nothing more.

    You are a device created by evolution to figure out whether your genes are adaptive enough to its surroundings to reproduce

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      10 months ago

      I’m giving up here but evolution did not “design” us. LLMs are designs and created with a purpose in mind and they fulfill that purpose. Humans were not designed.