• NostraDavid@programming.dev
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    9 days ago

    OK, can we stop randomly redefining “violence” to be whatever we do not like?

    We already have a word that perfectly fits here: Exploitation

    Knock it off. Thanks.

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        8 days ago

        violence /ˈvʌɪəl(ə)n(t)s/ behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

        That’s the common definition. In which case would violence not entail a physical action?

        Where is this idea coming from that violence isn’t physical?

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          8 days ago

          Mental or psychological violence isn’t physical. Economic violence isn’t physical, verbal abuse isn’t physical.

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          The World Health Organization (WHO) defines violence as “the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation”

          Withholding basic stuffs like housing through state violence is definitely a form of violence

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      8 days ago

      This isn’t redefining anything, violence takes many forms, not just broken glass. There’s mental violence, economic, sociological, cultural, verbal.

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        8 days ago

        OK, can you give me the definition of violence that you use? Because the common one is:

        behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.

        You remind me of my Christian parents who redefined “religious” to mean “following the laws of the Bible”, which they claim they don’t because they follow Jesus instead, so my Christian parents now claim not to be religious, even though the common definition is “relating to or believing in a religion.” - simple as that. It feels really silly to do that. Cult-ish, even.

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          8 days ago

          What displayed here is a form of economic violence. It looks like you asked for a definition of violence instead of searching for types of violence.

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            8 days ago

            It looks like you asked for a definition of violence instead of searching for types of violence.

            Yes, because if you have a word that has a definition, and you put a modifier in front of it to specify something, you can’t have that thing becomes something completely different.

            Let’s assume my point for a second, for the sake of argument (yes, yes, I know you don’t agree), and violence is physical only.

            That means that if you add a modifier in front of it, it doesn’t make sense to have that specified violence suddenly not be physical.

            That just doesn’t make any logical sense.