Article gives way too much faith and credit to Liz Truss. All she tried to do was make her friends rich.
Not to mention she was in power for a blink of an eye.
And these changes started well before anyone knew her name.
I left uni as a mature student (28) in 98. Then I could clearly see a huge improvement compared to the 80s. But far from the expected.
Morked in the US for 10+ years. When I came back the difference from before I left was very notable. Mainly in the youth. But through society in general.
There’s a single thing that can be accredited to Truss that isn’t catastrophic.
If you are giving credit to her for something you’ve missed something fundamental
Not surprising, but nice to see.
Broadly good news, well, unless your trans.
I can’t work out if I’m surprised or not that men’s attitudes towards transpeople have deteriorated faster than women’s. My bubble is so overwhelmingly focused on TERFs being the only people who hate transpeople that I’ve missed a lot of the phobia in toxic masc spaces.
Personally (and its little more then a guess).
It seems to me like some of the hard core rioght of centre males. Felt like there ideals were dying out. And like animals backed into a corner. Came out fighting.
Add to that the effect of social media over the last 20 yeas. Where the most non wsupported views can easily get a voice. Forming groups of like minded idiots supporting each other.
And the typical effect of teenagers looking to question general views.
Without the internet. These ideals still seem to have relatively low % of support in large groups.
Most are more of the opinion.
“Cant say I understand the feeling. But its not really my concern.”
That said most of us who are cis/het but support. Dont understand but still are happy to except and fight for others rights to be themselves.
Great news overall. Not surprised support for Trans and their rights has dropped. A noisy minority have alienated, abused and eroded the good faith of the majority.
Trans people are often fighting for their own existence in the eyes of society.
A society that it sometimes feels like at best turns a blind eye, and at worst would prefer they not exist at all.
The minority are noisy, because people were not listening.
And the majority are not noisy, because they’re exhausted by half their social interactions being an uphill struggle, or navigating the kafaqueske trans healthcare system in the UK.Exactly this. My trans friends activaly avoid trans spaces for this exact reason. They just want a quiet life where they are treated equally. Seems like queerness has become so performative lately, I know it’s giving a lot of allies cold feet (not the best reason I know, but you gotta understand that some of em are here to support “rights”, and what they’re getting now is a whole ass culture completely detached from the rest of society in terms of norms).
I think that goes for a lot of things. People are fatigued and running out of fucks to give. The irony is crying “equality!” in such ways that has driven division and created tribes. It’s a really sad thing to see it all going to shit. We had such hopes and the right idea for a while, but human nature isn’t very compatible with respect for others, just getting the most for one self. It’s how we got number 1 status after all.
Couldn’t be the media constantly lying about trans people being rapists/pedos/etc., nooo, its that some trans people don’t just sit down and accept society shitting on us (and constantly Just Asking Questions about our basic humanity and identity) instead of being “”““one of the good ones””“”.
We are allowed to be pissed off, even if it hurts some bigots’ feelings or makes some people uncomfortable. People say the exact same thing about other minority groups (that their support would be higher if only some “bad subset” would stop complaining). I hope folks would have learned of the flaws in that for those groups and can apply it to trans people, but it seems they have to rehash the same bullshit for every single minority group that fights for rights <.<
It’s frustrating every time and I want to point this out to people. Civil rights, labour rights, etc. have never been won by sitting quietly and waiting. It often involves protests and even riots (the first stonewall was a riot, as in, throwing bricks at cops, though that one was in the usa). Strikes have in the recent past been broken up via violent police action and often have involved violent responses in self-defense ^.^
This attitude of “don’t inconvenience the system or upset people’s idea of normality and never complain or fight back against massive amounts of systemic and personal injustice even as it makes people suffer and die” in this country needs to fucking burn in a fire. Nothing has ever been made better by just waiting for it to happen. And the people complaining about minorities not being polite enough, frankly, need to take a long hard look in the mirror ^.^
I’d encourage people to have a read of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_murder for some context. I think it applies to more than just economics, and is at least part of what i am referring to when talking about “suffer and die” beyond just direct murder.
Creating systems sufficiently hostile, dehumanising, degrading, and autonomy-denying to various minority groups that their suicide rate goes up significantly is something I consider a form of societal murder, and it applies especially to trans people - because the attack is on our fundamental sense of self and often forces us to endure changes to our body against our will until we are deemed “”“sufficiently trans (and only in the way we deem to be correct and acceptable)”“”, if we don’t go the DIY route. It applies to other groups in their own way a lot as well that I won’t list out because it muddles the specific point, but I’m sure you can think of them :(
This is the best summary I could come up with:
From attitudes to gay sex and single parenting to views on abortion and the role of women in the home, Britain has evolved into a dramatically more liberal-minded country over the past four decades, a leading study has found.
Examples of the ascendancy of liberal views include attitudes towards same-sex relationships – 50% of respondents said they were “always wrong” in 1983, compared with 9% in 2022 – and a woman’s right to choose an abortion, supported by 76% now, against 37% when the question was first asked 40 years ago.
There have been similarly sweeping changes in public attitudes towards sex before marriage, having children outside wedlock, and traditional gender roles in the workplace and the home, to the extent that Britain “now looks and feels like a different country from 40 years ago”, according to the BSA.
From the celebration of same-sex relationships and references to “partners” rather than “husbands” or “wives” to the general acceptance that family and sexual matters should be a question of personal choice, not social conformity, “our citizen would find her 1980s moral and cultural compass of limited value – and perhaps wonder whether it will ever be of much use again”, it says.
The BSA researchers point out wryly that while attitudes towards whether the man or the woman in a heterosexual couple should carry out household chores have changed hugely – 75% regarded ironing as the women’s job 40 years ago, compared with 16% now – the reality lags far behind.
“So far as the public are concerned at least, the era of smaller government that Margaret Thatcher aimed to promulgate – and which Liz Truss briefly tried to restore in the autumn of 2022 with her ill-fated ‘dash for growth’ – now seems a world away,” the study concludes.
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