Groomers hate sex ed, because it eliminates the ignorance they need to exploit in order to lure in their victims.
If kids don’t know they’re being abused, they can’t tell on their abusers. Gotta ask why the right wing is so vehemently against empowering children.
We don’t have to ask that at all, it’s pretty obvious actually.
I guess I wish more public figures would ask that.
Right there with ya buddy…
In a series of videos shared in private Facebook groups, Pedersen is seen standing among bushes across the street from the Alberta Teachers’ Association head office in Edmonton. The videos are filmed at night time and Pedersen is illuminating her face with a flashlight.
“I’m in a very special place,” Pedersen tells viewers in one video. “I am standing in front of the Alberta Teachers’ Association. Why am I standing here?"
Because you’re a goddamn lunatic?
People who want to feel like they’re special by spreading shit online when they’re more of the back-of-the-bus variety special…
I think you mean short bus. Or the front. The back was where the cool kids sat.
How many is these convoy dudes are the former “cool kids” who have since grown a beer gut and are yearning for the popularity/attention of their high school glory days?
I don’t want those fuckers anywhere near my kids. Not only are they fucking nuts, but this is the kind of shit that always winds up with a bunch of pedos “protecting the children”
Those people are what mental illness look like.
Literally every one of these concern trolling groups hides an actual predator or ten. The rest are all apologists or guilty of other forms of emotional abuse and neglect.
I have a question for my Canadian sisters, brothers, and others.
How much of this shit is actually organic to Canadian culture, and how much creeps in because the assholes there see what the assholes in the US are exploiting and decide to give it a try there?
Feels like a lot of culture creep. Some of these wing nuts talk about the first amendment as if we have that here. Some of them also seem to think that our Prime Minister has presidential powers. I think the “fuck Trudeau” flags are a rip off of the “fuck Biden” flags too.
Yeah, when the convoy crew ended up in court, they kept talking about their ‘amendment rights’, and the judges had to ask what they were talking about. These people are so dense that black holes are jealous. It’s more proof that they’re being purposely misled and manipulated in order to sow anger, disharmony, and fight against ourselves instead of the real sources of our problems.
They’re just really concerned about the formation of Manitoba from the Northwest Territories.
Nah. The YouTube and Facebook channels are probably more US-centric, which is where they get the “amendment” crap, but there are absolutely groups like this - anti-intellectual, often fairly “religious” - that have been around in Canada for a long time. More they’re just more organized and funded instead of being loose collection of weirdos that most people could happily ignore. Trumpism in the US may have emboldened village idiots around the world, but it didn’t really make them.
Trudeau has been around longer than Biden has been president, as have the bumper stickers. Those were here even before he became PM.
Canada has just as many hills for billies to hide under.
I was literally just going to make a joke about that.
I’m from the US, we have much better things to copy than our absolutely shit garbage politics… like BBQ ribs. Copy those, don’t copy our garbage propaganda lol
Honestly, that’s distinction without difference.
There are people living here who believe this shit - it doesn’t really matter where they got it.
Australian here. We got the same shit going down here and it’s very much not organic to our culture. We’re having a referendum this year for our first nations people to be recognised in our constitution. I shit you not the campaign against this is being funded directly by the same bad actors behind the culture wars bullshit in the US.
I don’t like where any of this is going. It was very very bad last time.
The extreme right hates sex education because it makes children far more difficult to sexually abuse.
Someone needs to bring signs that say GROOMERS AGAINST EDUCATION
Pedocon theory is a theory like the theory of gravity is a theory.
A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts.
Well gravity isn’t a theory at all, it’s a law.
Perhaps you’re getting gravity confused with evolution?
A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts. The theory of gravitation, for instance, explains why apples fall from trees and astronauts float in space. Similarly, the theory of evolution explains why so many plants and animals—some very similar and some very different—exist on Earth now and in the past, as revealed by the fossil record.
The Theory of Gravity is the well-substantiated explanation of gravity that incorporates laws, hypotheses, and facts.
I hope this helps.
Please post a link from a reputable source explicitly citing gravity as a theory as opposed to a law.
The link I posted quite clearly states that universal gravitation is a scientific law.
Hope this helps.
“The biggest difference between a law and a theory is that a theory is much more complex and dynamic. A law describes a single action, whereas a theory explains an entire group of related phenomena. And, whereas a law is a postulate that forms the foundation of the scientific method, a theory is the end result of that same process.”
Here’s a simple, easy to understand explanation of the difference between a law and a theory in science.
And here is an explanation of the difference between a theory in common use and in scientific use.
I hope these help.
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Go do a search for “youth pastor crimes”. Prepare to be very upset. You will find pages of sexual abuse crimes against children.
These idiots can be heard as soon as they finish a high-school sexual health exam.
I’m willing to bet that all of them would fail spectacularly.
Another astroturf event incoming. Will we see perfectly choreographed videos of 50 people with identical half-full gas cans “spontaneously” showing up in support this time too?
Fucking nutters.
You will know them by their inbreeding.
Sex ed ain’t for them kissin’ cousin Coutts folk.
(Edit: at least 2 folk are their own aunt/uncle)
Oh man, now we need to get signs that say “Kissin’ Cousins Convoy!”.
My sister-mother is my lover.
This is part of the “base” that Squinty McProudBoy has assembled. If you love trump and hate women then PP and his base of assholes are your people.
I mean id probably be good if we waited until hs or college to teach gender identity. Middle school or prior is too early, too confusing for kids who have the misfortune (like me) of maturing very early thanks to GMO foods. Sure teach everyone to not impregnate eachother, but stop at biologics with children.
After reading this comment section I will say that the term far-right is misused so much (thanks headline writer). I am someone who, for example, thinks abortion should be legal, yet that we shouldn’t be teaching kids that if their emotions are strong enough that they should commit to cross dressing and surgeries. Not to say the trans community is entirely con artists, only that they should wait until people are closer to adulthood and therefore more mature before they make permanent decisions.
As it sits the trans movements’ momentum relies heavily on indoctrination of kids, and its sad and alarming that these ideas are not as persuasive to older people. We should not stand behind ideologies that make less sense as we mature, especially in publicly funded school systems. We should teach the oldest ideas to the youngest people, not the other way around.
At college though, we should certainly teach the newest ideas to the now older people. Including trans theory
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Wow. You love propaganda huh?
Another user insisted I cite a source, like an English teacher. Uck.
Can you cite some of this propaganda that I love?
Do you like Russian, Chinese, or American propaganda most?
This person is an exaple of using logic sounding words to spread hatred.
Flowery words doesn’t change the fact you think trans people are grooming and indoctrinating. Please, shut the fuck up.
From my kids schooling, sex ed in early grades focuses on consent (“Don’t touch people if they say no”), acceptance of differences (“Don’t make fun of someone cuz they look/act different”), and acceptance of self (“try to understand your own feelings”).
I haven’t seen anything about pushing an agenda beyond personal autonomy. Can you tell me where you heard about this kind of agenda?
If I’d have gotten that might not have been assaulted
Sure, and the “don’t touch me there, thats my no no square” programming I think is good, and productive.
The issue I have is the ‘later’ grades education. For me (class of 2020) the latest education I received regarding sexual education was in fifth grade, where we were taught absolutely everything. All of the intercourses, all of the anatomy.
There was no follow up, there was no peer to peer discussion, only adults telling us what the world was.
My argument is not that we shouldn’t teach people all about sex and even sexual identities, only that we should teach them later in life, when people feel more confident in standing up to authority, and thinking for themselves.
If a person is gay, lesbian, or trans, they will know, so why do they need to be educated by someone who likely knows less than them? (Aka adult teacher).
Acceptance is a slightly different issue, just as we learn to not point at people with disabilities, all people should learn to not point at someone who cross dresses, and furthermore should try to befriend them, just as in the case of a disabled person
I like how you’re arbitrarily setting the line to which we all should believe and follow actual experts and where we should ignore them.
Are there other areas where you know more than professionals with accreditation and decades of experience and are thus best to determine where the line is better than they can?
If you think sex ed should be delayed until it’s literally TOO FUCKING LATE, then you are actually far right and just don’t admit it. I don’t give a shit what your other beliefs are. “High school or college”? You’re trolling, right?
Do you have any idea how many kids literally kill themselves because nobody ever told them it was actually okay (as in, incredibly common, and not a mental illness or abomination) to feel like that? And those that actually make it through into their twenties and beyond suffer lifelong serious emotional damage just from the ostracization, even IF they decide to conform (some would say especially if).
Your idiotic archaic notions of denying them the power to know and choose for themselves is the real indoctrination, and that shit actually KILLS kids.
I’m certainly conservative, I have denied nothing. I’m not an extremist, but that doesn’t fit into your worldview, therefore not true.
You are a far left bigoted idiot, and I cannot believe that you’re opinion is even real. Chances are that you genuinely are a russian bot here to muck up the conversation.
And as for your stupid point, fact is that more people kill themselves after transitioning, not before. Why is complex, some is external, some is internal, but numbers don’t lie.
Here is your response and my evidence, another has written it:
They do not use numbers, only emotions, if they used numbers, they would have no argument.
From the post: “There you have it. To be clear:
No, the study does not show that medical transition results in suicide or suicidal ideation. The study explicitly states that such is not the case and those using this study to make that claim are using fallacious logic. No, the study does not prove that trans women are rapists or likely to be rapists. The “male pattern of criminality” found in the 1973 to 1988 cohort group was not a euphemism for rape. No, the study does not prove that trans women exhibit male socialization. The “male pattern of criminality” found in the 1973 to 1988 cohort group was not a claim that trans women were convicted of the same types of crime as cis men.”
You will say I can’t read, wrong, I just don’t believe what people say, I believe what they can prove. The numbers say that post transition suicide rates go up, the person who wrote it says the opposite, likely entirely motivated by fear of people like you spreading hate and disinformation.
Fuck off, dipshit.
I mean id probably be good if we waited until hs or college to teach gender identity.
Children are bombarded by gender norms long before they stop using diapers… so you can’t really mean ‘gender identity’ here. Presumably you mean “nobody should learn about transgender identities until high school or maybe college”.
I assume, much like the many people who realize they are gay or lesbian earlier in adolescence, that many transgendered individuals also realize or suspect their gender status early in adolescence as well. It’s rather cruel to hide away information like this at the time when it is especially relevant… just as it would be cruel to not teach about periods until many girls have already started them (another bright inspiration brought to us by social conservatives). Rather than being isolated in the dark, children should be supported as they grow into their own individuals.
Motherfuckers wield the word “indoctrination” like a bludgeon, hoping that nobody notices they’ve been beating down everyone in the world with their own indoctrination since time immemorial.
Right? Like wtf is Sunday school?
The hiding is done to intentionally harm LBGT kids
I think your argument here is essentially, more sooner, more better. This on its face makes sense, as there are people (not you nor I) who are gay, lesbian, or trans from birth and those people ought to be taught how the world has essentially mistreated them.
I don’t think though that that is support. I mean, if you scrape your knee, and someone gives you a lecture on how pavement is harder than flesh and that because of that you were injured then they are not supporting you.
If a person is trans, what they need is no different from what any other person needs. They need to know they are loved. They need to know that they are accepted.
Why is it automatically the default that gay, lesbian, and trans people are automatically “isolated in the dark” if they are not taught about social structures at the ripe age of 10 years old?
Not only is it unlikely that a child would affect our society (so therefore why teach it), but it is even more unlikely that they are mature enough to understand the complexity of what our society is.
We should be teaching kids how to love each other, they shouldn’t need a reason.
@wedleeneeber @grte lol, get stuffed.
Also, GMO foods have nothing to do with the onset of puberty. That’s not how any of this works.
And if puberty were to set in earlier wouldn’t they need to k.ow sooner rather than later?
Puberty and maturity are not the same thing. Unfortunately, yes, we have to educate people on sexual matters when their body is ahead of their brain. That I think is a problem, with a complex solution. Simply taking the same curriculum that was once meant for 7th graders and teaching it to 5th graders is what has happened in the real world, and I think it was a bad response.
Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I don’t think fear is a productive response. Bottom line concentrated chemicals can be dangerous. I don’t think that is in any way controversial.
Here’s that:
https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/endocrine/index.cfm “Atrazine is one of the most commonly applied herbicides in the world, often used to control weeds in corn, sorghum, and sugarcane crops.”
Do you eat corn, corn syrup, or sugar? Corn chips?
And evidence that endocrine disruptors affects age of puberty:
https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/ehp.1104748#r17 “We estimated an inverse association between urinary 2,5-DCP concentration and age of menarche in girls 12–16 years of age who participated in the NHANES study during 2003–2008. To our knowledge, ours is the first population-based study to report an association between exposure to the putative environmental EDC dichlorobenzene and age of menarche, an outcome that may reflect endocrine-disrupting effects. “
Fear can be good, it stops us doing things that are unnecessarily risky. I apparently hold the controversial opinion that we should treat our bodies better.
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@wedleeneeber I think you just really need to understand what GMO is and isn’t. Based on what you posted, you don’t have this knowledge.
All of our food is or is made from a GMO
Wrong discussion? This one goes off the rails a bit.
Pesticides may have effects on the timing of puberty. But genetic modification is something completely different. GM crops have their own risks (contamination of wild populations, seed monopolies etc.) but as far as I know they do not affect human health.
You did not read what I posted
Not fully, but I browsed through both, and I (mostly) agree with what they are saying. But they are talking about pesticides, not GM organisms. Again, I’m not claiming that there are no issues with GMOs. But pesticides and GMOs are completely different! You cannot show that pesticides cause X and then claim that therefore GMOs cause X.
Pesticides ≠ GMOs.
In fact, even organic foods can have pesticides. They can just use organic pesticides.
GMOs have no more “chemicals” than any other food. In fact, they often have less “chemicals”, since they can often reduce pesticide use on pest-resistant GMO crops.
Most of the modifications in Genetically Modified Organisms are modifications that allow the plant to resist pesticides, no? True this would not be necessary for organic pesticides, but then also we could have food that is not derived from a GMO…
I’m not an expert, but off the top of my head, there are GMOs for drought resistance, creating natural pesticides on leaves (of potatoes), increased vitamin A (for rice to prevent childhood blindness), higher yields, seed-free varieties of fruits, and many others.
I agree that we shouldn’t be teaching gender identity until high school or college! Time to ban Barbie Dolls and Action Figures! Since those teach gender identity. We also shouldn’t teach children that their female teaches are Ms. or Mrs. and their male teachers Mr. That’s gender identity too!
What a trash human being. This bitch clearly has some brain worms.
