Most of the modifications in Genetically Modified Organisms are modifications that allow the plant to resist pesticides, no? True this would not be necessary for organic pesticides, but then also we could have food that is not derived from a GMO…

You did not read what I posted

All of our food is or is made from a GMO

I’m certainly conservative, I have denied nothing. I’m not an extremist, but that doesn’t fit into your worldview, therefore not true.

You are a far left bigoted idiot, and I cannot believe that you’re opinion is even real. Chances are that you genuinely are a russian bot here to muck up the conversation.

And as for your stupid point, fact is that more people kill themselves after transitioning, not before. Why is complex, some is external, some is internal, but numbers don’t lie.

Here is your response and my evidence, another has written it:

https://www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm

They do not use numbers, only emotions, if they used numbers, they would have no argument.

From the post: “There you have it. To be clear:

No, the study does not show that medical transition results in suicide or suicidal ideation. The study explicitly states that such is not the case and those using this study to make that claim are using fallacious logic. No, the study does not prove that trans women are rapists or likely to be rapists. The “male pattern of criminality” found in the 1973 to 1988 cohort group was not a euphemism for rape. No, the study does not prove that trans women exhibit male socialization. The “male pattern of criminality” found in the 1973 to 1988 cohort group was not a claim that trans women were convicted of the same types of crime as cis men.”

You will say I can’t read, wrong, I just don’t believe what people say, I believe what they can prove. The numbers say that post transition suicide rates go up, the person who wrote it says the opposite, likely entirely motivated by fear of people like you spreading hate and disinformation.

I think your argument here is essentially, more sooner, more better. This on its face makes sense, as there are people (not you nor I) who are gay, lesbian, or trans from birth and those people ought to be taught how the world has essentially mistreated them.

I don’t think though that that is support. I mean, if you scrape your knee, and someone gives you a lecture on how pavement is harder than flesh and that because of that you were injured then they are not supporting you.

If a person is trans, what they need is no different from what any other person needs. They need to know they are loved. They need to know that they are accepted.

Why is it automatically the default that gay, lesbian, and trans people are automatically “isolated in the dark” if they are not taught about social structures at the ripe age of 10 years old?

Not only is it unlikely that a child would affect our society (so therefore why teach it), but it is even more unlikely that they are mature enough to understand the complexity of what our society is.

We should be teaching kids how to love each other, they shouldn’t need a reason.

Another user insisted I cite a source, like an English teacher. Uck.

Can you cite some of this propaganda that I love?

Do you like Russian, Chinese, or American propaganda most?

Puberty and maturity are not the same thing. Unfortunately, yes, we have to educate people on sexual matters when their body is ahead of their brain. That I think is a problem, with a complex solution. Simply taking the same curriculum that was once meant for 7th graders and teaching it to 5th graders is what has happened in the real world, and I think it was a bad response.

Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I don’t think fear is a productive response. Bottom line concentrated chemicals can be dangerous. I don’t think that is in any way controversial.

Here’s that:

https://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/endocrine/index.cfm “Atrazine is one of the most commonly applied herbicides in the world, often used to control weeds in corn, sorghum, and sugarcane crops.”

Do you eat corn, corn syrup, or sugar? Corn chips?

And evidence that endocrine disruptors affects age of puberty:

https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/ehp.1104748#r17 “We estimated an inverse association between urinary 2,5-DCP concentration and age of menarche in girls 12–16 years of age who participated in the NHANES study during 2003–2008. To our knowledge, ours is the first population-based study to report an association between exposure to the putative environmental EDC dichlorobenzene and age of menarche, an outcome that may reflect endocrine-disrupting effects. “

Fear can be good, it stops us doing things that are unnecessarily risky. I apparently hold the controversial opinion that we should treat our bodies better.

:)

Sure, and the “don’t touch me there, thats my no no square” programming I think is good, and productive.

The issue I have is the ‘later’ grades education. For me (class of 2020) the latest education I received regarding sexual education was in fifth grade, where we were taught absolutely everything. All of the intercourses, all of the anatomy.

There was no follow up, there was no peer to peer discussion, only adults telling us what the world was.

My argument is not that we shouldn’t teach people all about sex and even sexual identities, only that we should teach them later in life, when people feel more confident in standing up to authority, and thinking for themselves.

If a person is gay, lesbian, or trans, they will know, so why do they need to be educated by someone who likely knows less than them? (Aka adult teacher).

Acceptance is a slightly different issue, just as we learn to not point at people with disabilities, all people should learn to not point at someone who cross dresses, and furthermore should try to befriend them, just as in the case of a disabled person

I mean id probably be good if we waited until hs or college to teach gender identity. Middle school or prior is too early, too confusing for kids who have the misfortune (like me) of maturing very early thanks to GMO foods. Sure teach everyone to not impregnate eachother, but stop at biologics with children.

After reading this comment section I will say that the term far-right is misused so much (thanks headline writer). I am someone who, for example, thinks abortion should be legal, yet that we shouldn’t be teaching kids that if their emotions are strong enough that they should commit to cross dressing and surgeries. Not to say the trans community is entirely con artists, only that they should wait until people are closer to adulthood and therefore more mature before they make permanent decisions.

As it sits the trans movements’ momentum relies heavily on indoctrination of kids, and its sad and alarming that these ideas are not as persuasive to older people. We should not stand behind ideologies that make less sense as we mature, especially in publicly funded school systems. We should teach the oldest ideas to the youngest people, not the other way around.

At college though, we should certainly teach the newest ideas to the now older people. Including trans theory