• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    2 months ago

    The alternative is the CCP being a constantly increasing threat to the entire world and pushing us towards an increasingly authoritarian dystopian future. So, yes, I am saying the USA should have fucked with China in the 1950s.

    I am a consequentialist. If we can use it to create a proven better future with more happiness and security then bloodshed is not just optional: it is necessary.

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      2 months ago

      The alternative is the CCP being a constantly increasing threat to the entire world and pushing us towards an increasingly authoritarian dystopian future.

      Okay, China is dead. Destroyed. Nuked into oblivion. No more China, no more CCP.

      What the ever-loving fuck is the next step in this scenario which doesn’t result in massive backlash against the US and the ideology it champions and a surge in the fortunes of the Soviet Union?

      I am a consequentialist. If we can create a proven better future with more happiness and security then bloodshed is not just optional: it is necessary.

      A big part of my point is that what you’re proposing is not only not a proven better future, it is a likely worse one.

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          2 months ago

          … so is your argument that two nukes will make China come making to the table, asking us to revoke their entire form of government and make them our vassal state, while the Soviet Union sits in the cuck chair, crying and jerking off?

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            2 months ago

            I think it would destabilize the CCP to say the least. How much of it becomes allied, demilitarized, or enemy territory is difficult to say unless I had extensive knowledge of the internal factions of the districts of China in the 1950s, but yes I think that could potentially be the superior timeline.