As a boomer-adjacent 60-year-old, with an adult son living at home, it’s the economy, stupid.
But, more than that, the world has gone to shit. And, no, that’s not the boomer generation’s fault. It’s the fault of the billionaires and the ignorant people of all generations who have voted for conservatives over the past 50 years.
Sure but they were alive and voted sometime over the past 50 years. And some of them deffo voted for shit politicians. I’m really not sure what your comment is trying to say.
As an Australian looking at the US political system, it is fucked in a way that voting can never fix. It simply isn’t a democracy in anything other than name.
Over here I can vote for someone other than the two major parties and my vote will actually count for something. In the USA you’re basically throwing your vote in the bin unless you vote for horrible party A or slightly less horrible party B.
You’re right about America but your country is on the same exact path which means your generation is making the same mistakes of not doing anything about it.
Basically I think the Australia can be saved by the people voting but I don’t think the USA system can. We have some problem with gerrymandering in the lower and upper houses, voting is not exactly proportional because of that, but there are actually minor parties and independents sitting in parliament and holding the balance of power. Just this last week the governing Labor party is trying to pass budget and tax reform, which they can only do by getting the leftist Greens party to vote with them. This tax reform shifts taxation away from income and onto assets such as property and shares to make things more equitable.
We have our problems, sure, but an unchallenged head of state and a failing democracy is not one of them. If conservatives or centrists are in government here it’s because the Australian people voted for them, and every person’s vote counted via preference flows if their #1 choice didn’t make it in. If conservatives or centrists are in government in the USA it’s because there was literally nobody else to vote for.
You also vote for the party here, not the prime minister, and the party can throw out their prime minister any time they want. Or the governor general can fire them. Both of these things have actually happened in recent times. As far as I’m aware, Nixon after watergate was the only president to actually lose office and he resigned rather than getting thrown out.
Yeah it comes down to the fact that the boomers were the largest generation for 54 years, their reign ending in 2019. So they played a large role in getting us to this fucked up place. And now Millennials are the largest generation, and we need to figure out how to unfuck it.
Greatest and silent generations laughing their asses off at the boomers taking all the heat for the state of the world. Previous generations would also be laughing if they weren’t dead.
You really need to look at the size difference between Boomers and Silent generation to understand how ridiculous that claim is. Not to mention once Boomers started feeling represented their voting participation rates shot up. They have dominated the U.S. political landscape for well over four decades.
Adult sons living at home is common in European countries where status quo is to the left of your Bernie. So it must be something else. I blame NIMBYs.
Italy is left of Bernie? I’m apparently ignorant, can you please tell me where is that intersection of “left of Bernie” and “adult children lives at home”?
Maybe I don’t understand left of Bernie: Is he far right so left of him is still right?
I maxed out my donation to Bernie and voted for him. In the 40 years I’ve been voting, I’ve never voted for a conservative, or Republican, neither federal, state nor local. I’ve always voted as far left as I can.
It’s so fucked that this is as far left as you can vote, first past the post is mental. Over here I can vote for the socialist alliance party or the animal justice party and actually have it count for something.
I just ask because I was phone banking for that primary and occasionally I ended up on the phone with a registered Republican for whatever reason. They were cordial and I was able to tell them why I thought Bernie was the best candidate among the Democratic nominees.
You know who was vile though? Registered democratic boomers were furious with me and called Bernie “too radical”.
So I don’t buy it when people try to deflect blame away from boomers for the state of American politics. Registered democratic boomers fight leftists harder than they fight MAGA. 🤷♂️
As a boomer-adjacent 60-year-old, with an adult son living at home, it’s the economy, stupid.
But, more than that, the world has gone to shit. And, no, that’s not the boomer generation’s fault. It’s the fault of the billionaires and the ignorant people of all generations who have voted for conservatives over the past 50 years.
Millennials were not voting 50 years ago.
Over the last 50 years includes 0 years, 1 years, even 2 and 3 up to 4 or 5 years ago. Probably even more who knows.
Sure but they were alive and voted sometime over the past 50 years. And some of them deffo voted for shit politicians. I’m really not sure what your comment is trying to say.
Their comment is rightfully pointing out the lions share of responsibility Boomers have for the state of American politics.
As an Australian looking at the US political system, it is fucked in a way that voting can never fix. It simply isn’t a democracy in anything other than name.
Over here I can vote for someone other than the two major parties and my vote will actually count for something. In the USA you’re basically throwing your vote in the bin unless you vote for horrible party A or slightly less horrible party B.
Australia is basically a exstension of the US, if you vote in anyone who isn’t what the US wants the CIA will make sure they get removed.
You’re right about America but your country is on the same exact path which means your generation is making the same mistakes of not doing anything about it.
Basically I think the Australia can be saved by the people voting but I don’t think the USA system can. We have some problem with gerrymandering in the lower and upper houses, voting is not exactly proportional because of that, but there are actually minor parties and independents sitting in parliament and holding the balance of power. Just this last week the governing Labor party is trying to pass budget and tax reform, which they can only do by getting the leftist Greens party to vote with them. This tax reform shifts taxation away from income and onto assets such as property and shares to make things more equitable.
We have our problems, sure, but an unchallenged head of state and a failing democracy is not one of them. If conservatives or centrists are in government here it’s because the Australian people voted for them, and every person’s vote counted via preference flows if their #1 choice didn’t make it in. If conservatives or centrists are in government in the USA it’s because there was literally nobody else to vote for.
You also vote for the party here, not the prime minister, and the party can throw out their prime minister any time they want. Or the governor general can fire them. Both of these things have actually happened in recent times. As far as I’m aware, Nixon after watergate was the only president to actually lose office and he resigned rather than getting thrown out.
And I’m trying to point out that generations are a spook meant to divide us instead of us focussing on the actual problem, billionaires.
No war but class war.
Tell that to the boomers. 🤷♂️
“And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”
Yeah it comes down to the fact that the boomers were the largest generation for 54 years, their reign ending in 2019. So they played a large role in getting us to this fucked up place. And now Millennials are the largest generation, and we need to figure out how to unfuck it.
At least half of us are stupid as fuck.
Shotty the stupid half. It’s just easier.
Greatest and silent generations laughing their asses off at the boomers taking all the heat for the state of the world. Previous generations would also be laughing if they weren’t dead.
You really need to look at the size difference between Boomers and Silent generation to understand how ridiculous that claim is. Not to mention once Boomers started feeling represented their voting participation rates shot up. They have dominated the U.S. political landscape for well over four decades.
We could have turned out and stopped the boomers but we continued to let them vote us down and, eventually, rig it against us.
Hanging chads!
Adult sons living at home is common in European countries where status quo is to the left of your Bernie. So it must be something else. I blame NIMBYs.
Italy is left of Bernie? I’m apparently ignorant, can you please tell me where is that intersection of “left of Bernie” and “adult children lives at home”?
Maybe I don’t understand left of Bernie: Is he far right so left of him is still right?
Who’d you vote for in the 2020 primaries?
I maxed out my donation to Bernie and voted for him. In the 40 years I’ve been voting, I’ve never voted for a conservative, or Republican, neither federal, state nor local. I’ve always voted as far left as I can.
Bernie pin:
It’s so fucked that this is as far left as you can vote, first past the post is mental. Over here I can vote for the socialist alliance party or the animal justice party and actually have it count for something.
Very good wording: “A conservative, or a Republican”
Damn, you got me. I totally blanked on that primary. Bernie 2.0! Not OP, sorry.
I just ask because I was phone banking for that primary and occasionally I ended up on the phone with a registered Republican for whatever reason. They were cordial and I was able to tell them why I thought Bernie was the best candidate among the Democratic nominees.
You know who was vile though? Registered democratic boomers were furious with me and called Bernie “too radical”.
So I don’t buy it when people try to deflect blame away from boomers for the state of American politics. Registered democratic boomers fight leftists harder than they fight MAGA. 🤷♂️
Damn i had a MAGA threaten to rape me when i was texting for him.
The Democrats really are just republicans trying to “placate the Mr Rogers generations”.
Both parties are filled with ruthless “empathy is weak, every man for himself” assholes. They must be kept as far away from politics as possible.