World was already the biggest by far when I first started lurking back in July, and it’s just getting more dominant. Before, there was quite some diversity in the distribution of generic communities, but nowadays the vast majority of posts that reach the top are from over there.

I really can’t see any specific virtue that it has; uptime is not the best (or so I’ve heard), the moderation is quite lacking (which is demonstrated by the fact that Beehaw defederated them), they make some unpopular moderation choices (like blocking !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com), and overall the atmosphere is a lot less… nice than those of smaller instances.

I also feel like it goes against the idea of the Fediverse that one instance has control over most of the platform. Especially on Lemmy, where communities mean that building community within an instance makes so much more sense than elsewhere, and upvotes are federated near perfectly regardless the size of your instance, decentralisation makes a lot of sense. It really just doesn’t make sense to me that Lemmy World is where people are going.

  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksdeleted by creator
    236·
    3 years ago

    Then again you’re talking about Beehaw, their users react so badly to anyone telling them they might be wrong that it’s not surprising their mods need to spend a disproportionate amount of time taking action against other users.

    They defederated from my instance (after refederating) after their users raided the two management communities and were told to fuck off and then played victims in the defederation post, I would take whatever they say with a huge grain of salt.

    Forget that, was thinking about Hexbear!

    • Masimatutu@mander.xyzdeleted by creatorOP
      95·
      3 years ago

      I dunno though. Most trolls and bad actors that I have seen around here have indeed been from sh.itjust.works and Lemmy World.

      Edit: Ah, that explains it. Beehaw is such a chill place, I could never imagine them doing such things.

        • Masimatutu@mander.xyzdeleted by creatorOP
          56·
          3 years ago

          Together, they make up a bit more less than 50% of active users, yet basically all far-right trolls are from there. You could say it is more difficult to moderate big instances, but if you have more users to moderate, you should also increase moderating capacity or close registrations.

          • Antik 👾@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 years ago

            We do not make up for 50% of the active users. Also we have plenty of moderators and admins, reports get handled pretty fast. It’s up to the community moderators first but if it takes too long one of the admins will step in.

            And we will never close registrations.

            • Masimatutu@mander.xyzdeleted by creatorOP
              22·
              3 years ago

              We do not make up for 50% of the active users.

              I remember it used to be higher, now it is approx. 41%. Only strengthens my point, though.

              Alsof we have plenty of moderators and admins, reports get handled pretty fast.

              I see different things. There are quite some trolls and abusive accounts that don’t seem to get removed.

              And we will never close registrations.

              I’m just saying the moderation has to improve in some way.

          • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
            46·
            3 years ago

            I dont know why you’re getting down voted, as a moderator basically all the “death to brown people” comments I have to delete are from that shithole and lemm.ee.

      • inverted_deflector@startrek.website
        1·
        3 years ago

        Lol yeah I just migrated my account away from beehaw because they do plan on leaving eventually and it’s kind of jarring how much more low effort posting there is now.

      • inverted_deflector@startrek.website
        1·
        3 years ago

        This isnt really true about beehaw though. Their mods actually have really good heads on their shoulders when it comes to policy and enforcement.

        Their goal is to protect the general vibe of the place and their prime rule beyond of course not being a bigot is to “Be(e) Nice”. Discussions are meant to be had in good faith and if someone is say spready hate speech and someone tells them to fuck off the mod will likely bad(and depending on what they said delete) the hater and probably do nothing to the person who told them to fuck off.

        They will go after people who are arguing in bad faith, trolls, people who are being too aggro for no reason, and of course people getting into a fight who need to cool it.

        Their more simplified ruleset is to combat what is often seen when you have the more reddit style strict rules. Where you wind up with users knowing just how to be a dickhead without actually breaking the rules and ruin the place. If a mod bans or deletes a post when the person isnt breaking a rule but stinking up the subreddit then the user causes drama towards the “abusive mod”. So the mods then put in more and more rules until the subreddit becomes bland or hostile towards posters. In this example if someone posts hate speech and someone calmly just tells them to fuck off then both posters will have to be penalized for breaking rules.

        The beehaw system allows for discretion. Ive also seen admins and mods on that site try and talk things out with posters who are causing a stink and giving them a good faith opportunity before showing them the door.