Dude this article gives me work PTSD. I hate working for CEOs and stupid fucking managers. Open source forever.
Unbelievable how out of touch they are with the community.
We have not seen any significant revenue impact so far and we will continue to monitor.
There’s your answer on how it’s affecting reddit. May be it’s spez just bluffing, but I hope this is a wake up call for the two day blackout subs and they do it indefinitely.
Idk how this is possible either, almost every sub I subscribe to is black, why would that not impact rev?
Well, considering the phone calls with the apollo dev, his trustworthiness is already shot. I would be very surprised if this didn’t affect revenue seeing how there’s thousands of people not buying awards now. That’s not even getting into ad views.
Due to his untrustworthy behavior, I can’t say I’d be surprised if he leaked the memo himself, purposely including the deflection of revenue not being impacted or such.
Sounds a bit conspiracy theorist, but I would certainly be unsurprised.
Leaked? Ha! Let’s call the memo what it is: a press release. A carefully crafted one full of deflections and to make VCs and future investors happy (no revenue impact!) while also allowing him to play the victim (you’re in danger!)
If everyone who’s not using reddit was already using a 3P ad free app, it’s possible they’re saving money on bandwidth while still serving the same number of ads to the remainder who are still getting on
Two days isn’t significant enough to register as a real change. Especially since I assume most advertisers have ongoing contracts based on longer periods.
If you want to see an actual revenue impact, the blackout has to go long enough that advertisers have time to start scaling back or even withdrawing from the platform.
While he’s probably right, the blackout is giving Reddit users the chance to return to old sources of news and entertainment, or encouraging them to try new communities like Lemmy. Ideally the blackouts continue, but I think the biggest threat to Reddit is a long-game when other alternatives become viable.
I’ve been using beehaw, but more important Feedly (RSS) because:
I can subscribe to YouTube channels, Reddit/Lemmy communities, and independent websites. That’s all my stuff in one place!
It’s algorithmically ranked, but I control the algorithm.
I can get to “inbox zero” and don’t re-see stuff I already read. No more doom scrolling.
I’ve love rss. I’m using feeder. I’ve ditched a lot of the things I use to go on like Twitter and Reddit. I’m mostly on discord, but that’s dwindling.
This is a good thermometer reading. I’m pretty sure many communities are prepared to extend this indefinitely if current plans aren’t reverted. I do believe him when he says
We absolutely must ship what we said we would.
I don’t know who the angry VCs are who get to pull his strings but if this gets their attention - it may or it may not - reddit might budge on things a bit.
At the end of the day the company is hopeless to make a profit with him at the helm. This memo sounds slightly nervous and lacks confidence. He has no clue what he’s doing.
It needs to affect revenue. To do that it needs to last.
r/programmerhumour announced they would go privately indefinitely cause of this. Here’s hoping a lot more subreddits join in, and hoping u/spez regrets every dumb decision he’s made in the pasts few months.
I never understood why they decided to come back Wednesday to begin with. Protests don’t work when you schedule an end date.
It’s a lower barrier to entry. It’s much easier to get people/subreddit to join the protest if they know it’s limited in time.
Then once they started the protest it’s easier to extend it indefinitely.
Exactly. It’s like saying you’re going to go on strike for two days and then come back. Like, the employer will just feel more validated in their actions if you do that.
Fuck that bad luck Brian looking ass bitch.
That said, the more stupid shit he does, the more people find out about lemmy. Lessssgooooooo
Not wholly sure that spez self-reflects on anything enough to have regrets. Seems a bit to egotistical for that kinda thing frankly.
That’s exactly how I feel about it as well. It’s not just that these guys are cartoonishly evil, they are also cartoonishly incompetent.
I have a feeling most of corporate is run by Wily E Coyote.
In all corporations.
I feel it’s just that the investor class is controlled by a few dozen people who incentivize and force these behaviour patterns.
I think it’s heirarchy in general. Decisions being made by the “Money people” without the people with other expertise having equal say. Ideally the money people, the engineers, the customer support, etc would all have equal say in decisions. I’m a big fan of coops.
It kinda is in the name with “capitalism”.
Did he just try to make it sound like Reddit employees are victims of hate crimes?? LMAO
I have to imagine he thinks people hate Reddit for some irrational unfathomable reasons, rather than just him and the other executives for their actual behavior.
I mean that was probably good advice tbh
It 100% is. As a customer service manager for a software company, I can say - you wouldn’t believe some of the threats we get, just while operating normally, and people are pissed about this.
I wouldn’t do anything to them, but I’d definitely deny them service if I found a reddit employee in the wild.
“Hi, I’m sorry, but we charge an extra api fee for reddit employees”
“You have an api for a coffee shop”
“Yeah, its the Asshole Prevention Insurance, since the ceo is a giant, gaping asshole that likes to spew his filth all over things, and we want insurance that nobody from there does the same thing.”
“There’s a lot of noise with this one. Among the noisiest we’ve seen. Please know that our teams are on it, and like all blowups on Reddit, this one will pass as well,” the memo reads. “We absolutely must ship what we said we would. The only long term solution is improving our product, and in the short term we have a few upcoming critical mod tool launches we need to nail.”
In other words, the blackout is not being taken that seriously. The culling of 3rd party apps is still happening. I hope more subreddits decide to go dark indefinitely, and that Redditors keep migrating to Lemmy.
Dude called it noise, lol. Feudalist vibes.
… providing Lemmy can survive the onslaught of bots, TLAs, chudiots and other wreckers who will come if/when it gets mainstream popular.
Fair enough. I’m just going to enjoy while it lasts (hopefully forever)
I’m going to stay on beehaw where at least they require an application to join. We need smaller and more spread out communities anyway to avoid astroturfing.
This doesn’t surprise me, during the whole process they didn’t even try to pretend that they were listening.
The thing that really gets me is how poorly they communicated: slandering the Apollo dev, ignoring mod’s concerns, lying, not giving enough notice, and having the audacity to hold an “AMA” but answer basically none of the questions.
Like if you’re going to go through with this change at the bear minimum you could be professional about it. But they way they did it was very arrogant and impatient.
My desire to open Reddit compulsively “will pass” too.
Just replace a drug by another one. Just like e-cigarette is used to replace the old product. Maybe you just need to inhale more Lemmy to change your addiction (and good news Lemmy is healthier) XD
Totally thought you were going to recommend picking up a drug habit to pass the time lol
Tone deaf I see
Wow the goddamn arrogance
“I am sorry to say this, but please be mindful of wearing Reddit gear in public,”
People wear Reddit gear? In public?! :D
Now that is giving me work PTSD of super duper hip and fresh company gear we were given and encouraged to wear aaaaughhhhhhhh.
Looking at the Blackout Tracker it seems a few subs have folded early - r/adviceanimals and r/travel being the largest. Also the news subs and random ones like r/movies or r/photoshopbattles never joined in - were they not on board of their own choice, or controlled from on high?
Goes without saying the CEO really fucked this whole situation. I never would have sought out an alternative to Reddit if he hadn’t decided to start all this API nonsense. But hey, in a way I’m glad he did. I never would have found lemmy otherwise. As a fan of open source material myself, I’d rather be here anyway.
Never commented much on Reddit, but I plan to be active here as much as possible. I want to see this community grow!
