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      11 days ago

      Yes. I speak for every industry in the entire world that being anti consumer is the wrong decision.

      Maybe not short term which you seem to have trouble thinking past, but long term yes.

      You speak for all console gamers when you say physical ownership doesn’t matter, or just the console companies you used to work with/for?

      Also, you seem to not understand that a companies decisions doesn’t have to be based off what people want. If it did, there wouldn’t be any anti consumer decisions ever because by its very definition anti consumer is against the consumer.

      Also, last I checked all 3.7gorillian gamers don’t all play on PlayStation

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        11 days ago

        There’s really no in continuing any discussion if you truly believe it’s not possible for other consumers to have different values, opinions, or perspectives than you do.

        No one will ever be able to reason you out of an opinion you arrived at through unreasonable means.

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          11 days ago

          Are you unable to comprehend that anti consumer means against the consumer?

          By its very definition it is not what consumers want.

          Or it would be called, PRO consumer.

          You aren’t a consumer only you also work for these people. Color me shocked you hold anti consumer opinions.

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            Are you unable to comprehend that you are not the model consumer that all definitions should be based on?

            As you pointed out, I am also a consumer. I prefer digital media and think the abandonment of physical media cannot come soon enough. We already have enough microplastic, we don’t need more.

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              11 days ago

              Which would be awesome if PlayStation made pro consumer choices like Valve does letting you keep downloading copies you paid for. But since they don’t, them taking away the only way that existed for them not to fuck you over is anti consumer.

              I think I misunderstood that you were saying its not right or wrong based off the opinion of gamers. When I say I am speaking for all gamers and all industries, I’m talking about anti consumer practices (like taking back copies of movies and games you pay for like they just did last month and willnextmonth again for ps3) being not good for gaming.

              Individual gamers will vary on opinion of that. Doesn’t change that it is objectively an anti consumer move for Sony to be making.

              Also if you really are against microplastics stop sucking the dick of companies and saying its ok for them to take back copies from you that you bought like you did in other comments.

              If they would still let you download stuff you bought like steam does already, then no one would be upset about discs.

              They are upset it because Sony has a proven track record of taking stuff away and not lettih you download it anymore, unlike more pro consumer companies like Steam that don’t do shit like that.

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                11 days ago

                I don’t care if games disappear. If the studio who owns the IP doesn’t want to pay to have it hosted any more that’s ok by me, its their choice. Steam absorbs the cost because they absolutely hose studios on their publishing agreements…

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                  They take the same 30% that PlayStation, Xbox, and GOG take.

                  So if they can afford it so can PlayStation.

                  Its not the studio who hosts it its the PS store and steam and Xbox who run the download servers.

                  And again, it isn’t the publisher that chooses to take a copy you own or they would tell Steam to stop. It is the store that you bought it on that chooses to do that. PlayStation and Xbox choose to do that, steam doesn’t which is why no one ever raised hell about steam having non physical (minus like, two or 3 games they made long ago) because they know when they buy it on steam they can download it forever or at least until Gabe dies.

                  If you are really for the end of micropladtics you should be supporting pro consumer choices that make people WANT digital, just like steam is doing. Not the ability to take something away you bought at a whim like Sony does all the time.

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                    No. Steam elects to absorb the lifetime hosting costs and builds a perpetual license into the publishing deal.

                    All Sony and MS licensing deals are time bound and the developer/publisher is responsible for hosting costs. When the publisher doesn’t want to pay anymore, the title gets taken down.