• Geobloke@aussie.zone
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    20 days ago

    If you want to look it at from a statistical perspective, the soviets did a lot more dying than killing. They lost more soldiers than the nazis for crying out loud

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      19 days ago

      To be fair, they had to defend their homeland from a ground invasion. In winter. While Leningrad was being sieged and blockaded. Many Soviet soldiers starved because of that.

      All while being present on other fronts.

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        19 days ago

        Because Soviets fought instead of surrendering.

        Did they have good leadership? I hear stories about how soldiers had to fight without enough guns or ammo, or they’d be shot by their commanders.

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            19 days ago

            They did not have Christmas parties with the Nazis unlike the Allies. Wonder why.

            Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. Also the Soviets literally invaded Poland opposite of Germany in '39.

            Back to my question about actual battlefield behavior, though: did the Soviet commanders shoot their own troops and send them into fights without enough guns and ammo?

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              19 days ago

              did the Soviet commanders shoot their own troops

              Yes, as did every other country during the war. Some more than others, but there wasn’t a single country in WWII where officers did not shoot their own soldiers for insubordination.

              and send them into fights without enough guns and ammo?

              No, this is common propaganda pushed by COD and Enemy at the Gates, based on a single officer’s report from the Battle of Stalingrad that they did not have enough guns to equip his troops. Conveniently, the second half of the officers report is usually left out, where he states that he is diverting his troop ship to a supply depot to rearm before heading into combat.

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              19 days ago

              I see you know nothing about history except spouting propaganda so no need to discuss further. You prefer surrender to the Nazis and joining them like Europe did of course.

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                19 days ago

                You prefer surrender to the Nazis and joining them like Europe did of course.

                My family left behind died in the resistance. Surrender isn’t an option against fascism, imo.

                Europe as a whole resisted the spread of Nazis in WW2, and didn’t join them like you’re implying. Many died fighting the Axis powers that took over part of Europe. The Axis powers that were also in Europe were defeated.

                • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  19 days ago

                  Europe as a whole resisted the spread of Nazis in WW2, and didn’t join them like you’re implying. Many died fighting the Axis powers that took over part of Europe

                  Then why are you on here criticizing the USSR for doing exactly that?