Summary
Whistleblowers at Boeing allege widespread safety lapses, including missing or defective parts and improper assembly practices, driven by pressure to maintain production schedules.
A January incident where a door panel blew off a new 737-9 Max mid-flight has sparked investigations, with insiders like Sam Mohawk revealing that thousands of faulty parts may have been installed on planes.
Other whistleblowers describe similar concerns over quality control failures, managerial indifference, and retaliation for speaking out.
Boeing denies safety risks but faces ongoing FAA investigations amid heightened scrutiny over its practices.
Attitudes like this reduce the cost of flying and I thank you for that
It’s not an “attitude,” it’s factual. Airplanes are loud, the seats are cramped and uncomfortable, and the passengers are often obnoxious.
Maybe you’re okay with unpleasant loud noise, discomfort and annoyance, but considering how much people hate those things in general, I think you’re in a small minority.
People have literally consciously stopped booking Boeing flights and it’s reduced the cost of tickets. I’m not sure how what I said is in any way controversial
It’s not controversial, it’s just wrong. It’s not an attitude. Not wanting to deal with all that is an attitude.
Active Noise Cancelling headphones (earbuds if you only fly short hop domestic) are your friends. Failing that? Consider earplugs but those tend to exacerbate pressure issues.
Anything short of a car (and even then) in the US is going to be uncomfortable. Buses are somehow worse and even trains aren’t great for extended periods of time unless you pay out the nose. Hell, even a Japanese train gets bothersome after a few hours.
What works for me is to sit in the aisle seat. For short hops it doesn’t matter. For longer flights? Being able to just get up and walk to the bathroom (or just pretend you are) once an hour goes a long way.
See above regarding anything but a personal car (and even then). But also? ANC Headphones help with this too
Nobody likes the above. But we tend to like the places we are going a whole lot more. And we are willing to put up with a bit of discomfort in exchange for seeing the world.
Cool, I’ll just ignore my family with noise-cancelling headphones during a six-hour flight and demand I sit in a specific seat and make my wife and child sit elsewhere.
You do know not everyone flies solo, right?
Have you ever tried noise cancelling headphones? They are great for background noise and conversations that aren’t right next to you but you’ll have no problem actually talking to your precious family during said flight. In fact, it makes it a lot easier to hear the person next to you
Yeah? That is a pretty normal thing if you aren’t buying the most budget of budget tickets. And you wouldn’t subject your family to Ryanair, now would you?
You do you. But generally speaking, seats come in 2s and 3s. So you should be fine to sit with them. Or not. Up to you.
So… what is next on the docket to establish why your suffering is unique and the entire world should reconfigure to make you happy?
Except that was absolutely not true the last time I flew. Let me guess, I used the wrong kind of noise canceling headphones.
Really? It’s a normal thing to demand that I get the comfortable seat and my wife and daughter don’t?
And, apparently, the solution you’re offering me is to make them uncomfortable at my expense.
What the fuck are you even talking about? I am reconfiguring by not flying. The rest of the world can do what it wants.
Why do you care if I don’t like flying anyway?
Apparently
Nobody is telling you to fly first class. In fact, I specifically mentioned an aisle seat because I am cheap as hell. If you rae buying three adjacent seats you probably have one of those anyway
Yes. I am specifically telling you that you must put your child in a shirt made out of human hairs to flight
I don’t give a fuck what you do. In fact, it amuses me that you are the kind of miserable sad sack who has to complain that the entire world is conspiring against you.
But I also think you’re spewing nonsense and it is fun to highlight that so that nobody takes you seriously.
This whole discussion and your entire post before that point shows that’s just a silly lie.
If you don’t give a fuck, go away and stop arguing with me about why I don’t enjoy flying.
Please quote me doing that. You can’t, because it’s a lie.
Edit: If anything is conspiring against me, it’s my DNA.
First, your username doesn’t add up. Second, you are going to drive the distance of a 6 hour flight? yeah, comfortable.
No, I am not going to drive the six hour flight across the ocean, hence me saying:
Reading is FUNdamental.
Secondly, I just came back from an 8 1/2 hour drive from Atlanta and I was quite comfortable. Room to stretch out in the car, able to stop when I wanted to, noise wasn’t too high, only one mostly non-obnoxious person in the car with me.
It’s almost as if you and I are different people, isn’t it?
Edit: Also, flying squid fly relatively close to the water and not for long distances. Passenger jets tend to do the opposite. https://phys.org/news/2013-02-bird-plane-squid.html
I hate to break it to you but airbus aircraft are just as loud and cramped as Boeing aircrafts. The people are equally annoying.
You’re still more likely to die on your way to the airport by a significant amount.
But yes keep letting the media control you.
Yes, the media totally controls me because I don’t enjoy the discomfort and the noise and the obnoxious people. If the media didn’t exist, I’d definitely love loud noise and discomfort and obnoxious people. For sure.
Right because flying an airbus is magically going to change all of that for you. Right sure.
I never said it did.
This is what I said:
Now, can you please quote where I said that Airbus didn’t have those issues? Good luck because I never did.
There are plenty of legitimate things to hate on me for, so maybe hate on me for those instead.
Ya flying sucks but if you do it on an airbus it’s magically better.
Only if by “better,” you mean built without thousands of faulty or nonconforming parts. In that sense, absolutely.
You did read the article, yes?
Again, there are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate on me, so why are you making up new ones?
Keep living in fear. That’s what the media wants.
A320s are less noisy, and have better pressurization and humidity control than 737s. Look it up.
I have looked it up and I have flown in both many many times. They are both very noisy. If there is a difference it’s negligible.