• Ulrich@feddit.org
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    17 hours ago

    Unfortunately, it is likely to still be running Windows

    The End.

    Why bother at this point? The market is oversaturated with dozens of devices with very little difference between them.

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      It seems this is more of a trial run, and the console in 2027 would ideally be an xbox OS handheld compatible with that catalogue of games…

      Ideally by then they will be blurring the lines between console and pc, and we will see some form of cross compatability.

      We will see if they f that up though.

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      19 hours ago

      Plus they will use it to promote subscriptions. Ubisoft gets hammered for:

      “gamers need to get used to not owning their games”

      Microsoft who is the company that actually popularised the model, gets no flack.

      I literally got censored (because I wrote like a cunt) on sh.itjust.works because I told off one of the ad company representatives sniffing around lemmy. MS spends Elon kinds of money to whitewash their image on social platforms while being one of the worst thing that happened to the gaming hobby.

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        Ive posted about this before, but yeah the subscription multiplayer model is probably the biggest hurdle keeping xbox games from going fully cross compatible with pc, even more than the technical challenges.

        Microsoft could dump funds into a compatibility layer making xbox games work via their UWP-based App store, but they cant because of what that means for their monetization of multiplayer.

        People wont welcome them charging for multiplayer on games theyre playing on their PC, so MS would rather focus on a streaming only future, where subscription is mandatory to play.

        They will never be good guy Microsoft unless forced. I dont think theyre desperate enough to eliminate the multiplayer subscription, and they will probably liquidate the brand before they ever give up that income stream.

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        if i had to guess that’s because their subscription is cheap, was even cheaper before, and offered a lot more than ubisoft. enshittification spiral is relatively recent

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            huh? it’s priced roughly the same as the competitors, ea play fits that definition much better

            edit: my regional pricings makes the comparison a lil harder, but it’s 3 bucks for ea play and like 6 for game pass, i think the proportions are the same elsewhere

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              Explain how. I’d like to hear your reasoning for this. Not saying EA is not dumping, just how that’s at all relevant to the BIGGEST company in gaming dumping or not.

              Windows is the most deployed non business OS in the entire world. Every single Win10 and 11 user gets constant popus reminding them of gamepass offers. Every single computer electronics item, laptops et al sold in the EU has 1-3 months of FREE gamepass attached. Each laptop sold with Windows gets 3 free month’s worth of Gamepass. I’d like to know how EA play is worse (especially considering till Satya whipped Spenser like the little bitch he is you could get GP for 12-48€ for a year, some people subscribed for several years).

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                Every single Win10 and 11 user gets constant popus reminding them of gamepass offers

                lol i don’t, check your settings maybe

                Every single computer electronics item, laptops et al sold in the EU

                ah, there’s the problem. nothing like that where i live so ea undercutting gamepass by 100% seems like they’re the ones dumping

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        Lol, gamers hate on Microsoft constantly, I don’t think their image is remotely white washed.

        And the primary reason that Microsoft is so heavily associated with gaming (and CAD software, etc), is because they’re the ones who built DirectX, which creates an abstraction layer that developers can target without worrying about the underlying hardware and graphics cards.

        Nowa days we finally have OpenGL and it’s successors, but Microsoft’s link to gaming was established by spending decades being basically the only company willing to create a more flexible and open gaming platform than consoles. Is that as nice as having open source code and standards as the abstraction layer? No, but it’s a lot nicer than Apple, Sega, Nintendo, Sony, etc who all wanted to tie the hardware directly to the games.

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          17 hours ago

          @MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone

          See what I mean

          Lol, gamers hate on Microsoft constantly, I don’t think their image is remotely white washed.

          And the primary reason that Microsoft is so heavily associated with gaming (and CAD software, etc), is because they’re the ones who built DirectX, which creates an abstraction layer that developers can target without worrying about the underlying hardware and graphics cards.

          Nowa days we finally have OpenGL and it’s successors, but Microsoft’s link to gaming was established by spending decades being basically the only company willing to create a more flexible and open gaming platform than consoles. Is that as nice as having open source code and standards as the abstraction layer? No, but it’s a lot nicer than Apple, Sega, Nintendo, Sony, etc who all wanted to tie the hardware directly to the games.

          OpenGL predates DirectX by several years and yet here we have someone spreading manifestly wrong information. Even Direct3D which is what should be mentioned came AFTER OpenGL. Microsoft is a trust, cheats bribes and breaks the law to maintain that trust and as a company should really be exploded into several smaller companies so that the market can have real competition again.

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      It doesn’t take much of a CPU to run the base windows. Without Windows unloading stuff it uses less than 4 gigs of ram.

      If the device is capable of running remotely modern games it’s capable of running them on windows just fine. Microsofts garbage doesn’t actually use that much resources vs a modern full fat linux distro.

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        4GB is still like 3GB more vs running Bazzite or SteamOS.

        There’s also the storage aspect, windows on its own with what it needs for windows updates can use like 50GB+ of space, and since most of these console come with small SSDs in the 128GB-512GB range that’s a huge downside.

        Then there’s the lack of small screen optimization, lack of touch optimization, and all the garbage that runs in the background, uses resources, and constantly bothers people like onedrive and teams and other junk.

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    17 hours ago

    Feels like something that is gonna blow but I am curious to see what they do with it. Though its been a rough few years for xbox.

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    19 hours ago

    Honestly the idea of a Gamepass Centric handheld is one I’m surprised they didn’t go for already. If they push it with just the Xbox styled front end, it’ll probably be more appealing than the xbox itself

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      Its not enough, my steamdeck streams xbox games just fine. Unless their pc handheld simultaneously offers near 100% pc game compatibility with an interface as easy to use as steamOS… They wont make a splash with this product(at ~$500).

      That probably doesnt matter because this device is just a brand teamup MS thinks is warming people up to the idea of an xbox handheld, when in reality I think it will dilute its reception.