• Luci@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    How the heck is that US propaganda? It’s historical fact

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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      7 months ago

      Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared ‘independence’ from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

      Alternatives or addendums:

      • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
      • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
      • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
      • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
      • Nougat@fedia.io
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        7 months ago

        Please imagine this meme that I am too lazy to create:

        NATO: exists

        Is this provocation?

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        7 months ago

        Tankies = Ruscists = Fascists

        Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!

        Good old Sudetendeutsche excuse. 卐

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            7 months ago

            It doesn’t even matter in this day and age. Claims have no meaning anymore since borders are internationally recognized as they are and only legitimately changed through diplomacy, not through acts of war. In this case, Russia very much, on multiple occasions, acknowledged the borders (including Crimea) and Ukraine’s sovereignty - including their potential wish to join NATO (I don’t remember if it was Lavrov who said it, it was some old interview).

    • index@sh.itjust.works
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      7 months ago

      I’m gonna guess because the instance is administrated by lemmy main devs and despite them being tankies the quality of discussion is still higher than in other instances. You can compare lemmy.ml local home with lemmy.world

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        I’ve seen you urging US voters to back third parties despite the mathematical realities of FPTP voting. Of course you prefer discussion on .ml.

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          7 months ago

          What’s the alternative? Urging them to vote for a fascist or for a genocide supporter?

          Lemmy.world home is filled with memes and news from mass media. Lemmy.ml home looks ten times more serious.

  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Not everyone believes the same thing about complex events. Lemmy’s userbase is probably dominated by western white men in tech, judging by the general sentiment on certain issues. Information that is posted ought to be true but we’re not obliged to take sides and automatically accept the western narrative on the Ukraine conflict.