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Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.
Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.
Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?
There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?
edit: UPDATE
I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.
Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though
Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.
I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.
It’s not Japanese culture. I know a fair few Japanese friends who are disgusted by lolicon.
The fact is, if you’re drawing childlike characters and putting them in sexual situations… there’s something fucked there. Sure, they’re not real, but it’s still fucked up to be attracted to that in the first place. They look like children!
It’s Japanese culture in the same way guns are American culture. You don’t have to like every aspect of your culture, but Japan is still the place loli/shota was crystalized into an artform, and America is still the country with the most guns by an extremely wide margin.
I’ve seen people get called a “pedophile” for liking Konata Izumi, a 17-18 year old character from the series Lucky Star. They weren’t even called that because they were posting porn, they were called that because they liked to collect SFW art of her. Do you expect people to not create porn of her as well because someone might find it offensive however? It’s so absurd to me.
The first thing I learned in therapy for PTSD is that I will get triggered, I will never be able to avoid my triggers forever, and that it’s unhealthy to even try. I need to be able to handle triggers, which over time helps lessen their impact on my life. I don’t see why other people should be denied enjoying something that harms no one just because it puts me on edge.
Hi, I’m an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor. Should I just not be allowed to date and have relationships with other adults?
Hi, I’m an adult woman who also looks pretty young! There’s still a huge difference between how I look now in my late 20s and how a prepubescent child looks! These things are false equivalencies. Stop trying to justify this shit.
there’s also a difference between a prepubescent anime child and a loli anime adult.
You say prepubescent child - pubescent children are still children, anything to do with a real child under the age of consent is a child. If you are an adult that looks like you are under the age of consent, should you not be OK with your sexuality? I struggle with my sexuality because people mistake me for a teen, but that is my hang up and I would not condemn others for embracing their body. Unless - are you suggesting that it is only bad if it resembles a prepubescent child?
If you can’t tell the difference between a small adult and an actual child, you have major issues.
my thoughts exactly about people who are anti loli. if they can’t tell the difference between a small anime adult and an actual anime child, you have major issues.
Except that argument doesn’t work with anime because it’s not real people, hence why some people draw characters that are 2000 year old vampires 5hat just so happen to look exactly like an 8 year old girl as a way to try and get away with it.
Of course not. But if you date and have relationships the other people involved understand the context exactly. If you started sending random nudes of your “I’m an actual full grown real life 30 year old adult. I look like a minor” self to strangers, how what would the context be.
Now of course NSFW animation is harmless. But you can understand the worry for 1000s of normies who click and the first thought they have is “Fuck is this CP? what am I looking at? I need to reevaluate my website choices.” if they have zero reference points from life or culture except what’s illegal tabboo and disgusting in their culture.
The great thing about the Fediverse though - there will likely be an instance where a vast majority share your opinion and can connect to all the same instances from an 3rd origin point instance.
If the concern is “normies seeing”, then perhaps a suitable compromise would be to hide such content from the front page by default? so that only people who explicitly subscribe to it can see it?
I’m an advocate of “curate your own experience”. I don’t want to see half the fucked up nsfw shit people post, yet you do not see me crying over defederating instances that host it.