• Starya68@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Only people who are too lazy to do anything say stuff like this. There are 8 billion of us. If everybody did something small that would make a huge difference.

    • minode@szmer.info
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      1 year ago

      Imo that’s a harmful look on this issue. Everyone should contribute, of course, but this will never be enough. The real impact can only come from country/worldwide policy changes. Research your election candidates on those topics and vote!

      • One doesn’t exclude the other. For sure, systemic changes are most powerful and freaking necessary right now, so yes - research your election candidates and vote!
        But at the same time do everything you can on personal level. It probably means lots of sacrifices. Smaller and bigger ones. E.g. I can stop using car for most of the trips, however I have to sacrifice time, because pubtrans is not good at my place. But I still live in a city, where there is some pubtrans. What about people who don’t have it in their area, that don’t live in a city but in a countryside or suburbs? They have to sacrifice a lot more than me. Are they willing to? Would I be willing to if I was in their shoes?

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      1 year ago

      I disagree with “only”. I think it oversimplifies the issue. People who aren’t lazy, but are frustrated by corporate/governmental/civil inaction, say stuff like that, too.

      A disheartening number of people simply don’t accept science. Others are too selfish or greedy to do anything that doesn’t have a short-term benefit. Climate change should be recognized as an urgent threat to the entire world, but instead, it’s become politicized.

      People constantly do dumb things that are against their own best interests. When considering the problem of climate change and our reactions to it, it’s easy to become exasperated.

    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
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      1 year ago

      It’s not that they’re lazy, it’s that the cost of the amount of change necessary to make that huge difference cannot be afforded by the vast majority of those 8 billion people. The “small” change mentioned above about upgrading to a more efficient furnace is probably over $1000. And we constantly hear that “56% of Americans can’t cover a $1,000 emergency expense with savings”. The problem could have been solved by a bunch of small changes 50 years ago. Then it could have been solved by government intervention 30 years ago. Today, we have such a wealth gap that 8 billion “small” changes (assuming “small” is something most people can actually afford) would add up to something so negligible, it honestly wouldn’t be worth the effort.

      I’ll leave this clip here. We could have solved this with government intervention. The fossil fuel industry made that impossible through lobbying and astroturfing. Now humanity will find out the hard way why it shouldn’t ever let that happen again.