Be the change you want to see in the world!

Also sub to smaller and more contrnt specific instances? Personally I have been having fun interacting with communities from my hobbies (most specifically manga) and at the end of the day that’s what matters most.

I don’t mind reading about reddit on the reddit community, but the fact people can’t shut up in non related communities annoys me to no end, the circlejerking is insane.

It’s like, people go to asklemmy and ask “don’t you feel this is so MUCH better than reddit, people are way nicer and have higher IQ”, like dude come on.

Also another one is people bashing reddit for no reason, like a post that said that reddit doesn’t respect free speech and showed a threat lf deleted comments with no context, as if that was a bad act in itself some people talk about moderation as if it was a bad thing done over in the bad reddit

When you say that there is no technical way, you sre referring to users not being able to block instances right?

If it’s that I don’t think it is that difficult to implement, Mastodon already allows for that. And also the app “connect for lemmy” in its last update has given the option to block instances user level, I don’t really know yet if it blocks all users from that indtance from appearing or only communities as I haven’t tested it yet.

Regardless to say, if we can get the appropriate tools this definitely could be a decision for users to take, if we make it so that they can completely block any and all content coming from a big instance.

No no, socialims is when I have two cows and the government eats one of them (or something like that, I didn’t advance much in my theory)

Did it do something?

If you encountered a community like that, maybe they needed those, there is a reason they are there and people keep posting.

For the immaculate example, see r/askhistorians where I guarantee your answers will get removed even when properly sourced since it has to do with how tight their quality control is, which that was needed to make one of the best communities out there.

Rules are not a reddit especific thing, once communities grow bigger over here more and more will develop and perfect rules that better suit their identities, it is a necessary part of this kind of social media.

Your post kindd of reminds me of another post today where someone pointed out at 4 deleted comments, with no context and basically said “reddit doesn’t respect freedom of speech, see how far mods have fallen since the blackouts” which was useless circlejerking, communities are no different that subreddits in that particular sense, moderation and rules will still be present here, a mod deleting your post has nothing to do with them being on reddit or not.

Jajaja I thought about that while typing it out but I still dont believe this is about EEE, Meta hasnt operated with that mindset yet in other spaces from what I know and I feel this is more that a kneejerk reaction of people not liking big corporations associating it with the idea that big corps want to kill the freedom that these spaces bring to online communities.

But I believe in the design of the fediverse and the resilience of the people, I dont think that a few platforms hoarding the big majority threaten the entirety of the fediverse, as long as people can self host their own instances since we can ensure there will always be spaces for communities like this, even in worse case scenarios like Meta just having so many features that other platforms cant compete in those terms I still feel a niche of the same people that are building this today are going to stick with it, and thus we can keep this going even if we are forced to defederate at a later date or they defederate us.

Embrace, extend and extinguish.

It was a more common tactic back in the day for tech giants to destroy competition omfor open software specifically.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

Are we going to start pretending this is something new to bash on reddit?

Given the lack of context the mods might be in the right here, what is up with the expectation you can just barge up to a community and say whatever you want, there are rules for a reason.

Sure let’s circlejerk

I am personally guessing it’s this option, people keep saying the idea is to EEE but I don’t think this would be the most effective use of Meta resources since they should be focusing yheir efforts at beating twitter.

Holy shit what is this level of cringe!!??

Already responded, seriously, edit your comments instead of replying twice, it is really annoying.

Emmmm, kind of disingenuous. And by that I mean a lot.

First of all, who takes the word of someone at face value that they didnt commit a crime. One thing would be a confession, which you can of course still doubt if there are proper reasons, but a defense saying “what I did is not a crime” is useless in itself.

Second, he is being disingenuous here. He mocks the loverboy methos like it is a fake accousation with no meaning behind, seriously describing it as “being nice” is sick.

If you are actually interested on why it is condemned and considered part of traficking, read the part on grooming here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking

And here is a law firm article on the matter: https://www.carlsonattorneys.com/news-and-update/loverboy-andrew-tate

Seriously though, this clip is no reply. He literally deflects the accusations “I pretended to love girls to make ticktock for money”, no, that isnt the accusation, it was forcing them into porn by coercing them and placing them in situations where it is difficult to reject. The allegations are serious, one thing is to defend himself saying he didnt do it, but to try to downplay what he has been accused of (and even said himself he has done years ago) is sickening.

But a counter is that much of that information is already public and can be scraped, they aren’t gaining much on outside meta users that they aren’t already able to do.

Best advice at the end of the day is that for social media, unless advertised on privacy, never post anything you dont want to be public. And for cases like lemmy, expect even metadata to be available for anyone interested.

I understand the wish to not interact with meta, even if its for privacy concerns.

But Im a firm believer that it is the user first who needs to make that decision, not the instance. But as I said, Lemmy being the only one of the big fedi platforms right now that doesnt have a feature for instance/domain blocking user level kinds of screws this up.

Good points. I’m sure there are other potential solutions to reduce the fear of EEE taking place here. I don’t really think EEE would work, since instances are supposed to be small and operate horizontally, it is kind of impossible to kill Lemmy as long as we understand that we need to spread out a little bit (otherwise huge instances being defederated hugely impacts the user experience)

One thing though, Mastodon does allow for blocking domains. I just tried it over Mastodon.online and also through the fedilabs app, both are working. Kbin also has that feature, wish they implemented it to Lemmy so that we can empower users to customize their experience without needing to self host.

I agree with the sentiment, I’m not a fan of preemptively blocking meta on instance level, especially when everyone was touting about how the fediverse is corporation resistant and by design it is resilient because of it’s horizontal nature, but at the first sign of threat they resort to the nuclear option.

Having said that, Lemmy specifically lacks tools on the user level, especially blocking instances. If a user doesn’t want to associate at all that is understandable (privacy concerns, not wanting to interact with hate groups, etc) but right now they can only block communities and users individually, which would make it impossible to block meta.

Lastly, I feel there are avenues that haven’t been properly explored, like forcing them to open source if they want to federate. (On the grounds of privacy concerns and security) In practice that would be the same as blocking them, but it would laid out a good foundation for new companies that want to enter the space without having to discriminate on a case by case basis.

Problem is that blocking is the nuclear option and everyone blovking before something comes out, which no one knows the danger yet like a hate speach platform would entail, goes against the spirit of the fediverse.

(psts, you can edit comments)

https://archive.ph/xqJXv

Here is an archive of his old website, which he has now deleted, I wonder why.

I can’t be bothered to search for the clips themselves, as I really don’t want to hear him talk anymore. But I remember a plethora of yt shorts were he described this one easy way to make money…

Out of context? Mate I’m not basing my reasoning on a bbc interview I haven’t watched to begin with…

“Without evidence” bruh he has described using the loverboy method himself, consistently for years.

And even if you were to say he is lying (which would be a weird thing yo lie about) you do have 2 rape allegations back in the UK plus allegations in Rumania, if you go and ignore it all saying there is 0 evidence that is on you…

You might say there is no definitive evidence yet, but that is just because he hasn’t gone through trial, which says nothing about culpability