Basically every single whole food has all 9 essential aminos, the incomplete protein thing is a half truth. It is true some foods have an imbalanced amino profile but it’s a complete fabrication that no plant foods are good enough. Many pulses, nuts, seeds, and vegetables will get you the recommended amount of aminos if you exclusively ate that singular food. For some examples pinto beans, peanuts, sunflower seeds, spinach. Even many grains like buckwheat and quinoa will get you there, just not wheat, the most commonly eaten one.

But I also find the term “nutritionally complete” to be a misnomer for something that simply has all the required aminos in the right quantities. Your body needs more than amino actions to function, there are many more known essential nutrients as well as nutrients that aren’t essential but healthful, so it’s best to eat a variety of things, and potatoes with dairy definitely does not satisfy the bill. Looping back to spinach though, it’s an example of a food that might be as close to nutritionally complete as possible, perhaps Popeye was on to something.

But other people might make similar incorrect comments, better that your comment with the reply that makes a correction float to the top (for people who sort by upvotes). The best solution is probably editing if you have the time and upvoting the reply. Similarly I’ll upvote something incorrect if I reply to it but downvote if I don’t have the time to reply.

A few things to consider. A minority of cows are free range grass fed, a very small minority are 100% grass fed and free range to an extent that matters, even in the case of 100% grass fed there might be fertilizers used. And make no mistake, cows on open pastures are not a good way to feed the human population from an environmental stand point, probably worse than factory farms honestly. Fields are terrible at sequestering carbon and lack a lot of the biodiversity of the forests most of them historically replaced.

I don’t think either is acceptable. But other animals have to accept it from us, and we would have to accept it from the aliens. Ultimately it would be up to aliens to determine what happens because they hold all the power, just as if other animals are ever going to achieve liberation it will be because of humans changing, not themselves, which is unfortunate.

I keep seeing the sentiment in this thread that if you go to prison you basically deserve whatever happens to you, which is a fucked up stance in itself, but more importantly:

Why do the cows, chickens, etc. deserve to suffer because someone is in prison? Does that make sense in any moral framework? How would you feel if we bagged random people not guilty of anything and forced prisoners to watch them tortured “on their behalf” as a form of punishment? That’s pretty much the same situation ethically and everyone would agree it’s fucked up.

I wish people would be willing to put off eating all meat until we have lab grown stuff, like how most people are willing to put off eating human meat until we have lab grown stuff.

Tumultuous Sand 😂