Go on, name the leftists doing that. That’s liberal shit.

Furthermore how many mass shootings are committed with hand guns? Mass shootings are the target of ‘assault weapon’ rhetoric, not gun violence. And any one with a more than surface level knowledge understands how silly the framing and blaming on AR style guns has been.

But to call that ‘coming from the left’ is insanity. The media if staunchy neoliberal, the politicians are too. The dems pushing that gun control are just as right wing as the ‘moderate conservatives’, they are reactionary liberals all the same bud. Reactionary liberals are the types who call for such extreme bans (books, guns, abortion, contraception).

Every leftist I’ve ever met is completely for the right to bear arms. Other than the ones who realise that against the advanced military might of nations in 2024 owning your own gun of any capacity is meaningless (against state tyranny).

The state has a monopoly on violence bud, owning a high capacity rifle will not protect you from state tyranny, neither will a hand gun. But a hand gun is a far more effective self defense tool for home defense than an AR15. So if it’s not for state tyranny, and its not for self defense, it’s either pure gun fetishism or you have a purpose to unload the high capacity ammunition rapidly (that could be 40 wild hogs or you know 40 wild schoolchildren).

That being said, I still think you should be able to get them. Its called ‘gun control’ you know, background checks, ensuring safety. Not ‘ban all guns’.

Responsible owners are no problem in my book, nor does banning a gun platform make sense. Curtailing the constant terrorism against our children and minoritys should be a high priority for anyone though. Left or right, its not simply ‘a fact of life’.

Anyway brain dump but main point is y’all mfers need to stop conflating centre libbies with the left. Its fucking mind numbing.

Definitely a much better tone.

My mate had a game of pool with him at a local pub, I think he said he seems pretty down to earth, although since he ate the bacon sandwich all goofy like maybe he’s truly despicable - who knows.

I don’t think it undermines anything to liken people who parrot 1-to-1 nazi rhetoric to nazis. Especially if you’re referring to maga republicans which have taken many steps past dogwhistle and into stochastic terrorism and promoting violence against minority groups. Yeah, of the 200 or so house republicans, only between 5-10 of them are ‘actual nazis’ in the sense that people mean, but those are also the current face of the republican party, who people actually know the names of.

It really isn’t so absurd to compare a group of people actively working against the rights of women and minorities, who actively staged an insurrection attempt, who want to install a christofascist dictatorship with their ‘red ceasar’ in the coming years to the nazis.

Yeah most of them aren’t literal members of the nazi party, only a few have been found with memorabilia, but at what point is the difference still worth fighting over? When all our rights are gone and we have no means with which to fight back?

If a group of people speak like nazis, act like nazis, plan to act in future like nazis, and are supported heavily by open nazis who demonstrate using literal nazi symbology… Then what is it you’re trying to prove by saying that they aren’t?

What you are saying almost seems to be like when racist people get upset at being called racist, not because they are or aren’t, but because they see it as some sort of grave insult instead if a description of their presentation.