Have we forgotten about the LA riots?

I would not stop for protestors either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Reginald_Denny

No, there’s no legal requirements to say the pledge or anything. I’ve never seen it done outside of schools, it’s just a weird tradition that has been carried on.

In my high school nobody in my classes actually said it, but one of the teachers or the student council president would say it over the intercom (we didn’t even stand for it, usually just went back to our work while they talked).

As a younger child in elementary school I remember we were expected to say it, and I do remember a couple kids getting yelled at for not saying it (by the teacher, I don’t think there was any formal punishment). I know some Muslim children would say the whole thing and leave out the “under God” part.

I never paid much attention to it until I got older and realized how weird it was. I’m hoping it goes away eventually.

I think I’ve seen more customized Teslas than any other vehicle to be honest. Half the ones in my area are wrapped, have custom wheels, bumpers, etc. I’m pretty sure it’s just another way people are customizing their vehicles.

Some Tesla down the road from me has the coolest holographic rainbow wrap on it, it makes me envious every time I see it.

Also, it could be that the T logo is the only piece of chrome on the newer models from the factory. I personally abhor chrome on vehicles, so I could totally see someone debadging theirs to get it off.

Exactly this. I expect to keep my Model Y around for a long time, but I’m excited about how much more developed the EV industry will be when it’s time for me to buy my next car. More competition is always a good thing, and I’m hoping the new players in the EV space will either produce a better product than Tesla, or force Tesla to iron out more kinks in their products to stay competitive.

Honest question, have you personally been inside a Tesla or did you form your opinion through YouTube videos, car reviewers, and anecdotes from other people?

I wouldn’t say the interior is on par with a typical “luxury” vehicle by any means, but I don’t think it’s bad either.

Edit because I think this is relevant:
A few weeks ago I made my first large mess in my Model Y. While getting out of the car I slipped and spilled a soda, a pizza slice, and 5 wings all over the seat and floorboards. I had root beer going down the walls, pooling in the seats, saturating the carpet, etc.

And I have to say, that is the EASIEST interior I’ve ever cleaned in a car. It took me about 15-20 minutes and it was spotless. The faux leather is sealed nicely so the soda didn’t absorb through the stitches or run out the sides, the trim pieces were fit together snugly and I didn’t have to go digging to wipe soda out of the door jamb or seat tracks. The fabric on the B pillars and headliner didn’t stain, and it was easy to get to any spots I needed to. It doesn’t smell like any of the food afterwards either.

I’ve spilled shit in a bunch of other cars and trucks of all shapes and sizes, and the Tesla was the easiest to clean up by far. I was impressed.

I’m sorry you feel that way, but I truly believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what the Tesla premium connectivity subscription is for. Most vehicles don’t come with a SIM card and LTE connection that you can use like a phone. It would be ridiculous to pay for premium connectivity in a vehicle that doesn’t have those features, but Teslas literally have a cellular data connection. That poses a recurring cost to the carrier (in this case it’s AT&T but paid thru Tesla), so it makes perfect sense for that to be a recurring cost to the end user.

Your car doesn’t come with free oil changes or tires for life, so why would Tesla pay a similar amount indefinitely on all it’s vehicles?

That article you keep posting says nothing about the bumpers being taped on. It’s also almost 3 years old and the problem was fixed long ago, so you should probably find a new “favorite Tesla fact”.

The fact that you resorted to personally attacking @ANuStart instead of defending your “facts” with actual evidence says a lot.

Absolutely nowhere does it say that the bumpers are held on with tape. Bumpers falling off was a real issue at one point, and it has been fixed by now. You can’t just make up random extra bullshit and try to pass it off as “facts”.

I’m not sure where you got this from? The rear bumper on the Model Y is held on with a couple bolts and industry-standard body clips. You can watch a disassembly video here:

https://youtu.be/BWmAlfzCtoc?t=515

Haha, I get this. My other vehicle is a lifted F150 that I use for off-roading and camping, so I’m a sinner in both camps depending on which vehicle I leave the house with.

Yes, as someone who also purchased one. Premium connectivity is $10/mo or $100/yr and it does a lot more than give you access to live traffic. You can also use it to watch Netflix and Youtube, stream music, and straight up browse the web from the car’s screen. If you don’t want to pay for it you can hotspot the car to your phone.

I ordered when the wall charger was still included so I still got one.

I have no complaints about the interior, and anyone who was conscious during the test drive certainly knows what the interior looks like before buying one.

I own a Model Y, don’t give a fuck what Elon does or says. I own a Ford too and couldn’t tell you who the hell the CEO of Ford is. Their personal opinions have fuck-all to do with the product, in my opinion. I test drove one, loved everything about the car, the charging network is objectively better, and I’m a big fan of self driving so that’s a bonus. I’m a little over a year into ownership and there’s absolutely no complaints I have about the car, it’s been a great experience.

Now the question is, why do you have such strong opinions about what cars other people buy? I’ve had a great experience with my Tesla and don’t know of any better way I could’ve spent my money on a vehicle.

I started watching his channel back when he did the turn signal video a few years ago. I was skeptical at first because I had seen his videos pop up in my recommended a few times and wasn’t interested in them, but after giving it a chance I love his content and watch most of his videos all the way through.

The only videos I haven’t watched in their entirety are the ones on subjects I’m already pretty familiar with. It’s hard to sit through 40 minutes of information you already know, but they’re excellent for learning about new topics.

Yeah, James Cameron has been to the Titanic and back 33 times. And to the Mariana Trench, and who knows where else. It’s not impossible to do it safely, but that requires spending money on the correct materials, listening to your engineers, cross checking with third party engineers, and not rushing things. Carbon fiber is a stupid material for a sub hull, using different materials with different expansion and contraction rates for your pressure vessel is a stupid decision, not having a way for the passengers to self-rescue is stupid, using a wireless controller without (multiple) hardwired backups is stupid.

The entire thing reeks of a CEO who doesn’t want to take the time to do things properly in fear of investors losing interest. And I get that fear, I work for a small company as well (not building submarines) and you do have to move quickly with a lot of things. But you DON’T rush things when human safety is a factor.

That sub should have been remotely operated dozens of times and gone through multiple iterations before they ever let a living creature inside it. It should have been x-rayed between every dive to find microfractures in the brittle carbon fiber hull. Multiple prototypes should have been built and extensively tested to find flaws in the design or assembly process.

To be fair that’s been the reddit slogan for like a decade at this point