I sincerely hope nobody reads my post and decides to consume opiates. That is not my goal. I was just trying to point out that while some of us seem to have a mental barrier that prevents them from getting high off adderall, others of us it’s our white whale of high we are chasing.

For me, having recreationally used everything under the sun almost, adderall is the only drug I was ever an “addict” of beyond nicotine.

You made a few points. I will try to address them all, please point out if I missed any.

1. no, there aren’t a billion studies showing this.

2)If people with ADHD are immune to getting high from it, that caveat of “at the reccomended dose” to prevent addiction wouldn’t need to be applied. The only drugs people go ham on are the ones that get you high. Therefore, it is known by the medical community that recreational levels of these drugs do in fact get people with ADHD high.

3. Most people diagnosed with ADHD were diagnosed as children. Its highly doubtful that they were already addicted to adderall and then faked their symptoms to get a prescription.

4. its a party drug maybe for people who are too young to legally get into venues where actual party drugs exist. Maybe for a DND party. But a real party or venue? No. I understand fent has hit the streets hard, and perhaps that is pushing people who never experienced real party drugs into safer alternatives, as adderall is percieved to be. There may be a generational gap between us on this specific point.

5. yes, it creates focus in literally everybody who takes it.

I get it, the drug helps many people with ADHD, but the conversation can’t only be framed as “people with ADHD can’t get high or addicted to it,” when the actual people who seek treatment for adderall addiction just so happen to be people who have ADHD. Nobody has ever lost their diagnosis because they got addicted to an addictive drug. I assure you of that.

Isn’t the average home price in California more than double the average of New England?

Why would somebody harm themselves just because they found out something about somebody else?

Or just maybe… Some drugs dont work on certain people and they dont know why but ADHD appears to be involved?

I’m likely older than you and retired from the street drug consumption game.

Believe me, I have tried opiates. They dont do anything for me. It’s a better ibuprofin but robs you of the ability to poop.

Believe me, my interest in researching the validity is zero, I’m just pointing out that there are people with ADHD who claim that adderall doesn’t get them high, while at the same time, there are people with ADHD who are adderall addicts the moment they get the first pill ingested yet appear to have diminished or zero response whatsoever to opiates.

Trump has helped your life as a member of the gay community?

And you are posting from .ml?

I’m curious, but on alert.

Well as I stated, recreational doses of street opiates (before cent became a thing that had to be worried about) have not once ever produced an effect on me, and I have had 30 day prescriptions of medical dosages last 2 years.

Trump’s base are the cryptofascists who do not hide the fact that they are coming for the gays.

Maybe providence didn’t see fit to give you the choice of saving all Palestinian lives, but it certainly seems to be giving you the choice to save your own.

Its addictive for people with ADHD as well. There is a study from about a decade ago that researched and found over 50% of Americans incarcerated on methamphetamine charges were diagnosed as either ADD or ADHD.

I once told a therapist that I was skeptical of my diagnosis based off how the moment I ingest adderall, my entire prescription will be gone within 9 days, she then told me that she had not once in all her years of practice met an adderall addict who didn’t have an ADHD diagnosis. She did however point out that those who actually truly did seem to not get high from amphetamines were more likely to enjoy opiates recreationally, which kind of tracks, because despite trying on several occasions, I’ve never once felt the effects of recreational opiate usage and thus very likely immune to forming an abuse disorder if ever prescribed them long term.

Most of us struggle month to month, most of us dont attempt to leech blood money to unburden our struggle. Most of us don’t run to the media to cry about how our murderthing fascist familial connection isn’t letting us leech their blood money.

If I was Kyle Rittenhouse, I wouldn’t give a single dime to the people who created Kyle Rittenhouse. They created an unlovable twerp, they shouldn’t profit from that.

Hasn’t he raised enough money through charity to support his family? Isn’t he currently filming an actual movie for Ben Shapiro’s company? Was he not paid for that?

The grift never ends with right wingers. If you have given them money once, they know you are a target to be bled dry, so they will just keep coming back for me.

I feel like I have seen you make this comment before. Possibly more than once. I am Hally to see you so committed to a joke that is both a) not yours, and b) not funny.

The good news is drug-seeking behavior is a byproduct of ADHD, so there is hope for you yet.

The bad news is people who live with ADHD don’t exist to help everybody swindle doctors so they can get access to dangerous drugs.

Right now, the only solution is for Qatar to voluntarily hand over Hamas leadership.

Hamas is deciding they are going to continue to allow their citizens to be murdered just so they don’t lose power.

They need to go.

"Finally, a place for us straight men. Do you have a jukebox, because somebody plans to put on Bob Srgar’s greatest hits.

I think it was designed to make profit off of making people upset.

But more specifically, you almost have to respect it. Target the same audience that still refuses to admit that James O’Keefe stole their money and watch the money roll in.

Right wingers love shit like this and will invent a backlash just to donate even more money to the business owner.

I think it is built using activitypub. Its essentially a mastodon server that has all incoming servers blocked.

I disagree.

We know what META is about and what they do. We came here because we didn’t want to be treated as products and used as experiments constantly watched by “AI algorithm”.

The smartest thing anybody ever said to me is, “don’t let a pimp have access to the battered woman’s shelter.”

Almost all of us are here because we have either always thought that, or grew to think that.

This explains some things about Joe Rogan.