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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • So lemmy/kbin doesn’t feel the same yet. A lot of the content I viewed on reddit, just isn’t here in the same way. I think when the api changes take affect, we will see many more people making the switch as in a lot of subs, the content is posted via api when scrapeing other sources. That mixed with changes in moderation will be catalysts to people moving here full time. I also think there still needs to be some work on the interface. Even the best run instances don’t have the same look and feel of reddit. If something feels different, people will resist it no matter how much they want to like it. As much as some people may have thought it would be, this is not an overnight migration.




  • I think the blackout is counter productive to continue. The idea was to try and convince reddit to change their minds, but as we can see now that is simply not going to happen. you can’t convince someone who is unreasonable with logic. The way it has gone is that there has been a large influx of people trying things like kbin and lemmy, and the experience has not been smooth. lemmy.ml being immediately overloaded, and continuing to be difficult to federate with reliably is a problem, and not one just for that instance. It creates a sour view of the network (especially with other instances running into issues that seem to be scaling issues with the lemmy software). I think kbin has had some scaling issues that required using a large cdn to even try to cope with. The problem there is that if you look at the traffic of some of the largest federated reddit replacements, it is almost nothing in the grand scheme of things. The number of communities is very small, and those that exist have thread counts in the double digits at best. Most of that is due to the hyper isolation and fragmentation of instances due to federation issues at scale.

    In the end I think every sub should call it a day on blackout. Go back to normal and make it clear that reddit hasn’t won, you are just regrouping. Then give the software devs a bit more time to work before the 3rd party apps go offline for the final time. use the initial blackout as a scream test, and wait for reddit to disable themselves by revoking api access. Hopefully by then many of the larger issues with reddit like federated alternatives can be resolved, or at the very least minimized, so the transition away from reddit can take place quickly and easily.