Can’t say I’ve met the elusive DeSantis/Green voter.

It’s almost like Newsweek is a rag publication and anyone who actually believes Greens pull from Trump, well, they read Newsweek.

If they were laying siege to a military base, sure.

But they were laying siege to a city… Maybe you should go read up on the history of siege warfare to get a better understanding of how that impacts civilian populations. Heck, forget medieval times, just look back to the '90s to the Siege of Sarajevo.

Also, prior to this 20th century, there were no Geneva Conventions, and prior to Nuremberg, no international war crime tribunals. So not sure what your point is.

Either way, it’s a cartoon world. My entire point was that cartoons shouldn’t be held to a standard that must reflect our reality, but that logic must applied equally. Either it reflects our reality, or it doesn’t.

You can’t say it reflects our reality, but because he was a good guy in the end, that negates his war crimes. That’s not how war crimes work.

So, if we’re discussing this in terms where the cartoon parallels our reality, then yes, laying siege to a city full of civilians is a war crime, full stop.

Siege warfare of a city is absolutely a war crime.

Additional academic reading on the subject.

Are you actually saying that a soldier who participated in the Rape of Nanking, decapitated 30 babies, but who then felt bad and deserted before the end of the war, wouldn’t be a war criminal…?

I honestly think the real confusion here is that you have no idea how the Geneva Conventions, ICJ, or just the concept of war crime culpability actually work…

Hint: you’re so wrong, that it’s actually embarrassing. I’m cringing for you. You should delete your comment before anyone else stumbles across it…

Because I said Nazi SS officer, instead of IJA General…?

I’m sorry, they’re both war criminals… Are you saying that using a different race invalidates the analogy about war criminals…?

It wasn’t a bad analogy, it was a disingenuous interpretation by other readers, like you. That or, just really ignorant of the relevant history, such as who the Waffen SS were…

So if people want to play the “what about the good Nazi” game with it, then fine, we can skip straight to the source material and inspiration for the Fire Nation: the Japanese Empire.

But again, I don’t believe art has to directly reflect reality. So I don’t consider this cartoon to be a war criminal, but if people insist interpreting it as a direct reflection of reality, then yes, an IJA General would be his historical analog.

The inspiration for the Fire Nation was Imperial Japan…

That means his historical analog was an IJA General tasked with conquering China, Korea, Philippines, etc.

Why don’t you open history book, and find me the IJA General on one of those campaigns who wasn’t a war criminal.

Which is why this is fictional, and he’s allowed to have a narrative story arc.

However, if this was a Nazi SS Officer, who fled to South America, and then went on to redeem himself by [insert narratively compelling redemption story], he’d still be a war criminal.

But again, it’s a cartoon, and we don’t have to treat his character as if he were an actual Imperial General commanding troops during wars of conquest, especially one from the IJA.

If I was support, had a list to work through because my calls were monitored and recorded, and you were being a complete know-it-all asshole, I would walk through them as slow as possible, and repeat as many as I could plausibly get away with.

Because that’s the actual job: following instructions from their boss, which means following their processes. Why would they deviate from that, and risk their job, for someone who’s rude, and/or self-important?

As someone who’s also technically competent and rarely calls support, when I do, I’ve never had to repeat the same steps 17 times, or even 3 times.

I let them tell me to turn off and on again, confirm it’s done, explain why I need a level 2 support or escalation. Then they’ll typically ask me one or two more questions, which I’ll politely answer, reiterate my polite request for level 2, and they will escalate for me.

So I won’t use the Iraq war as a marker of morality…

In other words, you’ve nullified the murder of 1 million innocent people by Bush, in order to rationalize why Trump is worse.

But please, write another five paragraphs justifying why those deaths shouldn’t count here. I’m sure eventually you’ll figure out the right semantic argument that almost passes muster for someone of slightly below average intelligence.

I’d actually respect you more if you just said that you care about the danger Trump poses to American democracy more than a million dead Arabs. At least you’d finally be open and honest about the political and moral views you clearly hold.

That’s a lot of words to basically justify why the extermination of one million people isn’t that bad relative to myriad of shitfuckery Trump did.

Oh, and Incase you forgot, Bush did actually succeed at stealing an election. So…there’s that.

1 stolen election + 1 million dead arabs < Stormy Daniels and a failed attempt at stealing an election.

Your politics and sense of humanity have to be so so broken and destroyed by social media consumption to even entertain that idea, but you’re full on tripling down on it.

Damn. I hope you touch grass and see the light someday.

You’re comparing tangibles to intangibles, hypotheticals, and combining it with a very confused sense of morality.

The fact that you can’t see past Trump to understand that actually killing one million human beings is worse then anything he did, is depressing.

Do you not understand that Trump can be a malignant tumor and dangerous all on his own, without having to pretend that anything he did even remotely compares to directly killing 1 million innocent people?

Or maybe you don’t care because they’re Arab? I know you’ll balk at that, throw out all the right signifiers, and maybe even throw a “how dare you” my way, but I’m not left with many other options to understand to your rational.

Well it’s good to see that a million dead Iraqis is definitely not worse than fucking pornstars and embezzlement…

That’s dark dude, like holy shit your sense of morality and justice is so bent that I’m blown away.

You’re the type of liberal who actually believes Dubya is a good man, or a better president than Trump.

Nevermind that he killed over a million people in Iraq.

Trump is a malignant tumor, no doubt.

But so are people who campaign alongside Dick Cheney.

Don’t assume that the majority of people who vote for Trump, are MAGA.

Many, if not most, are the same as many Biden/Harris voters in that they hate both candidates, and are voting for who they view as the lesser of two evils.

As I’m a Lemmy user, you can safely assume I’m not one of them, but the point stands.

But, if you’re talking about people who have gone full on MAGA insanity, well they probably got there somewhere between 2016 and 2020, so there’s not a a ton of new converts to deal with.

And even with then, they’re the minority of a minority.

Of course, if someone is of the opinion that anyone who votes for Trump, no matter the reason, must be excised from their life, well that’s their choice, but I kind of pity them.

Trump is not Hitler. He’s too lazy and stupid to be Hitler. Let’s not pretend that voting for Trump is the same as supporting Hitler, it’s not.

He’s a piece of shit authoritarian, but on the scale of American Presidents, the areas where he deviates the most from the norm, is how stupid and crass his corruption and racism is, not that he was corrupt and racist.

Xaomi is a good brand, until proven otherwise.

I was just giving a broad disclaimer, but mostly I was trying to highlight that they aren’t some random shady white box OEM that gets re-sold under 72 different brand names.

They are a well established brand that produces quality products, that happens to be based in China, and therefore subject to Chinese laws and regulations.

I’m guessing very few, if any, Play Store certified devices are on that list. Unless Google has really laxed requirements.

Either way, Xaomi devices might get a CCP backdoor, but probably not an ordinary botnet like this.

Not some evidence, clear and convincing evidence.

The problem is that the Saudi “government” is essentially comprised of competing factions of slave owning inbred cousins.

So saying the Saudi government was involved isn’t as clear cut as it sounds for the purpose of adjudicating any “punishment”.

Now, if KSA wasn’t the lynchpin of America’s Middle Eastern security apparatus, and viewed as integral to the entire American imperial project, then the US Security State’s response would have likely been much different.

News, tech, left-wing politics, memes, anime, and porn are Lemmy’s biggest community types.

I know a lot of different subtopics fit under each, and I’m sure I left a few top level subjects out, but my point is that there are a lot of mid-sized, and especially smaller (by Reddit standards), subreddits that Lemmy is no where near being remotely useful as a replacement for yet.

I have community subreddit collections that I don’t see Lemmy replacing anytime soon. I mean, I hope they do. I still check every so often, and yes, communities for them exist and they have maybe a few dozen users, but not enough to even try to just suck it up and deal.

Not sure if you were intentionally making a joke knowing it’s spread via contact/mosquitos, or just really dumb.

Either way, I chuckled.