They accomplish that and the already diminutive presence they have in the world will shrink even more.

If that is enough for your needs, that’s fine.

i’m going to ignore your posting history and assume for a moment you aren’t a contrarian debate pervert.

Thank you for your consideration.

why do you feel the need to agree with people but then say ‘but that’s not how it works today’?

Because those people are correct. But at the same time, right now, there is no viable option (to my knowledge) to completely erase the things we agree on.

i see these types of comments in every comment section about societal problems. ‘i agree X needs to change to Y, but we don’t have Y today, sweaty. 💅’ like- what? are you all really just trolls, or do you really think you’re being insightful and helpful? because this isn’t what a discussion looks like. it’s dis-miss-ion.

I’m not dismissing anything; I’m admiting it is wrong while at the same time admiting there are no alternatives to end it today, tomorrow or in the foreseeable future.

The simple admission of something being wrong, opens the doors to debate. Debate generates change of thought. Change of thought enacts action.

We do not need to fully agree on anything and none of us is required to understand the other perspective but at best we may be cordial enough to respect that we are in our right to hold different opinions, without the need to consider the other is mocking us.

If humans would treat nature and themself better we wouldn’t need any “beauty” products or even any medication in the first place.

How?

Just to artificially look “better” or live longer?

Vanity is a flaw, I agree. Age is not something to be ashamed of.

Everything that happens to us, is because our own selfishness ego to think we are the “alpha” product who owns everything, while we are just dumpshit animals with no respect for nothing.

Hubris is to blame for many mistakes people do but no animal or living being has respect for anything else besides the immediate survival. Animals will destroy others habitats, food, brood, etc, because the others impede their way.

You wan’t to test some product? Go test it on criminals or orther deranged humans and leave those poor animals alone. But no, testing on non volunteer human is not ethical correct??

Why criminals? Why not simply use any individual. If consent is the crux of the matter, let’s go that way full force.

Oh yeah that’s were we draw the line.

Yes. It’s called self preservation. All life is to be protected until there is no other option than to end it and carry the burden for such choice. We don’t live in Dante’s Inferno.

I can’t find the article but a man that was fatally dosed with radiation in a nuclear plant accident was subjected to treatments, without prior consent, to study radiation poisoning, that prolongued his life to a point his existence was only pain and suffering.

It was an incredible act of cruelty to a human being but the knowledge gathered from it has improved the collective knowledge on how to address something that can meaninglessly kill others.

I can’t even imagine the mental state of those that took part in the study and witnessed the living decay of a human being while knowingly prolonging his suffering.

Animal testing is fundamentally wrong, I don’t want it to exist and I agree with you, but the world is not all sunshine and flowers.

Death is an integral part of life.

You can argue, because the concept and notion of consent is exists and is understanble by us, humans, we are burdened with the task of safeguarding those who can not understand it.

Many die, unwillingly, unknown, unnamed, for others to live. It’s an unchanging law of nature.

We can and should, are morally obligated to, curtail the cruelty that still holds our reality together. It is wrong but exists and, to a degree, is necessary as reality exists today.

from the moment you realize just how easy and powerful using the console is, you learn how to use it

Yes, I understand that; there is a learning curve. For some, too steep.

Both occurr.

There are experimental medication trials with volunteer human subjects, often people in a situation where they have nothing to lose and whatever small contribute they may give to advance knowledge on a given field may very well be their last (or only) act of compassion towards others.

Make-up and so called beauty products can and should be tested on humans alone. But medications and other alike present too much of an unknown outcome to test outright on humans. Too many could die before any good data could be gathered to improve whatever is being developed, which would render most research undoable.

Animal testing is, as we stand, a necessary evil we must all carry with us. Let us hope we find a way to end this in a very near future.

The short answer is yes. But the interesting part - and I’m talking from personal experience - is that from the moment you realize just how easy and powerful using the console is, you learn how to use it.

And it does not mean you are going to turn into a full on expert or geek, tinkering around the console. You just learn a few simple commands that enable you to do something (or somethings) quicker, easier and cleaner than going through a GUI.

Can you? Yes. Should you? No.

In my country, cable providers offer streaming subscriptions bundled with their standard service since pre-CoViD.

I knew Netflix was a thing because my provider started announcing I could add it to my service for an extra €3.

Didn’t get it regardless.

Where is that sentence from?

Why can’t we have basic, objective, uncomplicated worded warnings like that? Maybe the stupid ratio would drop.

As someone that has to work in very close proximity to feces, smelling it is a good sign. Not smelling it is the alarm bell.

Fully agree.

If this kind of institution starts to be ignored, with no consequences, then it no longer serves a purpose.

Now you got me seriously depressed.

You could put giant billboards warning for the risk and it would still become a recurring event. Even if it said “warning: this is capable of grinding a human being to pulp”.

Aliens took them, obviously. What else? What other logical, rational, simple explanation could there be?

Thank you.

But… Why do you assume I have instant knowledge of acronyms because I opted to insert a comment on a topic that teased my interest? Does it pressuposes anything about my person?

Good morning.

Let’s call that example the canary in the mine but I’m seeing many similar situations where I live.

Being in a less than urban area, there is still a bit of industry around and some factories are cutting staff and a few have already shut down operations, especially in sectors more closely related with end user products (clothing, footwear, yarn, etc). Industries with ties to industrial use (metal working, construction materials, wood and derivates) are keeping afloat but only replacing workers that go into retirement or that for some reason or another just quit, and these industries, in my understanding, are keeping afloat because of the hard push into more sustainable and efficient houses, which is forcing a good deal of public investment into large renovation projects and funds.

Parallel to this, bakeries, coffee shops, small businesses that rely on consumption, are shutting down. For me, this implies there is less money floating around.

Paired with the hike in housing…

You are going to have to unfold all of those acronyms before we can move forward with this conversation.

I don’t have the palest of ideas of what you are trying to convey.

How could such an odd choice benefit them?

Honest question.