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    8 months ago

    I’ve seen this posted elsewhere, and while it’s a valid thing to talk about it distracts from the bigger issues

    Others here have explained the difference between someone who’s taken as a prisoner (they are being held because of something they allegedly did) and someone who’s taken hostage (someone who’s held as security for some other purpose). From what I can tell, even Hamas isn’t saying the hostages are guilty of anything. It seems like those involved in the situation agree that the terminology is appropriate.

    The more important discussion imo are:

    • Whether the charges against the prisoners are appropriate, or if there’s a history of charges, arrests, and detention without justification or evidence. I think this is the point people are trying to make when they bring up hostages vs. prisoners, but if you aren’t specific about it you end up going in circles and arguing about the wrong thing.
    • Whether those are being held (both hostages and prisoners) are being treated with respect and dignity. If their needs are being met and if they are being tortured / otherwise suffering unjustly.

    There is also some more important discussion around terminology, such as one group being called “women” (implies humanity) and another “females” (more formal, scientific, and a term that’s also used for animals).



  • This might just feel like confirmation for those that have been watching the coverage in recent weeks. The CTV journalists and newscasters themselves look uncomfortable too, so it’s good that they’re now able to share what’s going on

    The journalists said senior producers and senior editors across the platforms of CTV’s parent company Bell Media have disparaged Palestinian guests, told employees that protests calling for a ceasefire should not be reported on, and blocked or delayed stories that included too much contextual information about Israel’s military occupation and regime of apartheid in Palestine.

    The journalists, who are not being identified for fear of retribution, described a widespread bias at the media conglomerate against Palestinians that’s resulted in one-sided, incomplete coverage of the violence in Gaza that does “a huge disservice” to Canadians.




  • Statement and subsequent apology

    The motion comes less than a week after the rookie MPP posted a statement on social media calling for a ceasefire in the region while also demanding an end to “all occupation of Palestinian land.”

    In the statement, Jama did not address the Hamas attack on Israel, which spurred the most recent violence in the region.

    About 24 hours later, Jama issued a written apology for her comments after a lengthy discussion with NDP Leader Marit Stiles—who asked Jama to retract the post. Related Stories

    “I heard many voices yesterday raising concerns about my post. I hear them - and above all, I understand the pain that many Jewish and Israeli Canadians, including my own constituents, must be feeling. I apologize,” she wrote.


  • The motion calls comments made by Hamilton Centre MPP Sarah Jama last week “antisemitic” and “discriminatory.” If passed, it would call on the Speaker not to recognize Jama in the House “until the Member retracts and deletes her statement on social media and makes an apology in her place in the House.”

    Didn’t she already retract and apologize?

    It also demands that the MPP “desist from further conduct that is inappropriate and unbecoming of a Member of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.”

    From what I saw, the issue with the statement in the first place was the timing and that it didn’t call out every group that needed to be called out. That’s what the issue was. They’re also saying the NDP is an “antisemitic party” and that ‘Jama is not fit to be premier’. The statements are all wild, it almost makes me think they’re trying to use this as a distraction.

    They’re intentionally making wild controversial claims to direct attention away from the greenbelt controversy









  • From article, it looks like it’s on the mind of the party leaders too, just in a bit of a weird way

    Fraser cautioned against blaming the lack of affordable housing on new immigrants.

    “Let’s look at what the actual cause of the challenges are that we’re dealing with, and recognize that immigration can actually be used as a tool to bring the workers that we need to build more homes,” he said.

    “We have to be really, really careful that we don’t have a conversation that somehow blames newcomers for the housing challenges that have been several decades in the works in Canada.”

    Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre accused Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of doing just that during his own media availability in Ottawa on Monday.

    “He wants Canadians to forget all that and blame immigrants. He wants to divide people to distract from his failings,” he said.

    “He thinks if you’re afraid of your neighbour you might forget that you can’t pay your rent. This is what demagogues do.”