The thing is fruit/vegetable is not a category in botany. Fruit exists, and it kinda has that definition, that it carries seeds, but that doesn’t serve to distinguish it from vegetables.
Fruit/vegetable is a culinary distinction, rather than a scientific one.
And this is the whole point of the controversy: The same word can have multiple meanings in different contexts and some people have trouble with that concept.
I had always learned if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable or something else
The definition strictly is “fruiting body”, that their flower head goes through a process of becoming a fruiting body
Many vegetables have seeds.
Pumpkins are already in the example, but think peppers, legumes
I would still consider those fruits tbh, but yea they do draw the line
The thing is fruit/vegetable is not a category in botany. Fruit exists, and it kinda has that definition, that it carries seeds, but that doesn’t serve to distinguish it from vegetables.
Fruit/vegetable is a culinary distinction, rather than a scientific one.
And this is the whole point of the controversy: The same word can have multiple meanings in different contexts and some people have trouble with that concept.
There’s no controversy, only differing categories.
If you are saying tomato is a fruit, you are using the botany category
When I say tomato is a vegetable, I am using the culinary category
If there’s argument it’s only because someone is keeping the category secret
… that’s what I was saying.
Glad of it