• Zombie-Mantis@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    It’s the difference between the culinary use of the word and the biological use of the word. I thought we already figured that out?

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    The thing is too that mushrooms don’t even cook like vegetables or even like a protein or anything. So not only are they not botanically vegetables, they aren’t even culinarily vegetables either.

    Also if you don’t like mushrooms because of the texture, you’re probably cooking your mushrooms wrong.

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      I just think mushrooms taste like shit, meh at best, not a texture thing.

      • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 hours ago

        Is that just the normal ones you find at the grocery store, or have you tried other types? I think oyster mushrooms are really good when you fry them until they are crispy. Lion’s mane is really good too, I like to make vegan pulled pork with them. The flavor of some foraged ones are also amazing like chantarell and black trumpets. Chicken of the woods also tastes and kinda feels like lemony dry chicken. There’s soooo many great mushrooms

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    In terms of botany, a vegetable isn’t a thing (it’s a culinary term).

    Whereas a fruit has a specific botanical term (and a culinary term).

    Not everything is “one or the other”, some things are neither (Rhubarb), and some are both (tomato).

  • BilSabab@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    vegetable fruit discourse is fucking stupid. just call’em edibles if we’re not getting into the scientifically proven specifics.

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    I know this is probably a repost but the self-censorship is super annoying and has entered the lexicon in ways that can permanently damage human communication as a whole.

    Yeah sure censor stuff from kid shows but we’re at the point where “unalive” and “pdf file” are being used as code words. Everyone knows what they mean, even the censors.

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      7 hours ago

      100% agree, we live in a 1984 age.

      Also, using stupid words such as unalive doesn’t make any sense because the algorithm of social media companies knows exactly what it means.

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        Its coming from Tiktok. Bytedance has heavy word censorship and if one of your comments or videos was flagged as inappropriate and had one of those words your account would be automatically suspended for review.

        So a lot of normal westerm words got flagged. Kill. Dead. Any word related to sex. Hole. (Lol) basically every curse word.

        Then there are gray words like Pedophile where people think it changes the algorithm to show your videos less if they contain them, but no one has any proof from what I can tell.

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      It’s also extremely weird because people often just default to the “hidden meaning” completely ignoring context. There were so many instances where I was being shouted at for writing “CP” on the Cyberpunk subreddit, it was just weird

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    I have a simple flowchart to determine what is or isn’t a veggie:

    > Can I eat it? -> Yes -> Does it come from an animal? -> No = Vegetable

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    I had always learned if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable or something else

    • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 hours ago

      The definition strictly is “fruiting body”, that their flower head goes through a process of becoming a fruiting body

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      if it has seeds (in nature) then it was a fruit, otherwise it was a vegetable

      Many vegetables have seeds.
      Pumpkins are already in the example, but think peppers, legumes

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          The thing is fruit/vegetable is not a category in botany. Fruit exists, and it kinda has that definition, that it carries seeds, but that doesn’t serve to distinguish it from vegetables.

          Fruit/vegetable is a culinary distinction, rather than a scientific one.

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            7 hours ago

            And this is the whole point of the controversy: The same word can have multiple meanings in different contexts and some people have trouble with that concept.