• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You are reciting information that you yourself do not understand.

    I am not limiting socialism to non-market systems you are that’s what you said.

    Scarcity in a for-profit healthcare system isn’t handled it’s what makes it profitable in the first place.

    Sir or madam I implore you to stop this.

    I will continue to respond to you because someone has to. Socialism does not work it is a detriment to human society I will fight against it at every turn especially from ignorant people such as yourself.

    Unless of course you’re bot which I just realized was very likely because what you’re saying doesn’t make any sense none of it does.

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      2 days ago

      Socialism does not work it

      What’s your argument against it working if single payer healthcare works?

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        2 days ago

        The begining of this whole conversation was me explaining how universal healthcare has nothing to do with socialism and I have explained to you multiple times how what you’re describing is social democracy which is not socialism.

        Can you tell me that you are acknowledging what I’m saying instead of asking nonsensical questions and avoiding my core statements like you’re some kind fundamentalist evolution denier talking to an atheist calling show on YouTube?

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          2 days ago

          Under actual socialism, the state owns the means of production. There is no private sector to tax. There is no flow of revenue from independent businesses because those businesses no longer exist as independent entities. Your points about taxation, profit collection, and philanthropy only make sense inside a mixed economy, precisely the system you claim to be replacing.

          That’s your explanation. I quoted Wikipedia showing that there can be a flow of revenue. So why can’t socialism work like single payer healthcare?

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            1 day ago

            That was in response to your statement.

            You claimed there was no private business involved, and I already addressed that. You’ve now quoted the very text I used in rebuttal.

            Once again: what you’re describing is social democracy, not socialism. Universal healthcare does not require socialism to exist.

            Take countries like Canada, France, or even Cuba, which is a socialist country. Their universal healthcare systems rely on taxing businesses to fund them.

            The private sector supplies the healthcare infrastructure, and the government subsidizes that care for the population.

            I encourage you to look up what a subsidy is, how taxation works, and how economies function across different forms of government. You lack the fundamental understanding needed to have a meaningful discussion about these topics, let alone form an informed opinion.

            So far, you have not acknowledged anything I’ve stated. You still do not understand what socialism is, you do not grasp its definition, and you do not understand what you are advocating for.