Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

Edit: A lot of people are asking why Beehaw did this. I want to keep this post informational and not color it with my personal opinion. I am adding a link to the Beehaw announcement if you are interested in reading it, you can form your own views. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

  • LeZero@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s getting pretty tiring to see people feeling entitled to have access to any and all communities of the Fediverse, if the people paying for the running cost of the Beehaw instance wants to defederate (for whatever reason, “good” or “bad”), that’s their prerogative.

    If you really want access to their content, apply to join, otherwise sign up to any of the dozens of lemmy instances federated to the rest of the fediverse.

    One of the great things about the Fediverse in general is choice, user and instance admin can choose how they want to interact, and are not beholden to a company or group which can take any arbitrary decisions they want.

    TLDR : Instance admin are entitled to how they want to run it, you’re not.

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      1 year ago

      Ah, in less than 48 hours we’ve come full circle.

      What beautiful dawns await us.

    • tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I’m entitled to leave to another instance. One of the main things to look at when choosing an instance is who they are federated/defederated with. I would never join BeeHaw Lemmy.world, or Sh.itjust.works because of their feud. I’d rather join a third party instance and have access to all the content on all three.

      • EpeeGnome@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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        It’s not a feud, lol. Admins from all of them say they talked it out and they plan to re-federate in the future. Beehaw wants to be a heavily moderated instance, and lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works were growing faster than Beehaw’s moderation ability.

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        If you really want access to their content, apply to join, otherwise sign up to any of the dozens of lemmy instances federated to the rest of the fediverse.

        I think it was pretty clear, yeah

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        Until the instance you choose to set up on ends up in a feud with any, or all of those instances.

        The whole fediverse experiment is going to end up with a number of small, highly segregated communities, and even more political polarization. I guess if you want to live in an echo chamber, a federated environment is the best way to go about it.

        • tooting_lemmy@lemm.ee
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          I don’t think so, Lemmy is just going through growing pains. Those instances are already talking about refederating.

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      1 year ago

      I signed up through sh.itjust.works - was this a bad idea? Only opened my account 2 days ago so learning the ropes.

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        Nothing is stopping you to register on multiple and see how each one feels, then stick to the one you like most. Instances with application process tend to have a bit more curated user bases and that’s reflected in conversations where they participate. You could try lemmy.world, Beehaw.org, lemmy.ml, or any other instance.

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        Don’t worry about it, sh.itjust.works is a popular instance and Beehaw just want to do their own thing. Unless there’s a specific community hosted on Beehaw that you really want to be a part of you probably won’t notice, as most popular subjects have communities on other servers.

      • LeZero@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Shitjustworks was defederated from Beehaw, if you absolutely want to be able to post on Beehaw, you’ll have to create an account there, otherwise you should have access to every other instances federated to shitjustworks

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      I’m criticizing people criticizing people for criticizing people who criticize people who criticize…

      You’re just as tiring as the people you’re criticizing.

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      Ah, in less than 48 hours we’ve come full circle.

      What beautiful dawns await us.

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      Ah, in less than 48 hours we’ve come full circle.

      What beautiful dawns await us.

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      Ah, in less than 48 hours we’ve come full circle.

      What beautiful dawns await us.