Wrong, annoying animations was Flash’s thing. Javascript was made for annoying popups and alert boxes
Also for these animated status line texts that were supposed to show what’s being loaded currently.
alert(“nyyeehh”);
furiously clicking non actionable button
I was there for the first wave of SPAs, I even learned angularJs and Knockout. It did feel like a major atep forward, being able to make highly interactive applications. However, things quickly went off the rails when the tools stopped being about managing heavy client state, and became the default for everything, even when it ment using JavaScript to build extremely basic functionally browsers did natively with html, but extremely worse(e.g. navigation). The modern Web really is a victim of hype and trends.
Unless your app needs to work offline, or you have to manage dozens of constantly changing client side data points concurrently, your site doesn’t need to be a big heavy js framework. My rule is if it looks like Google Maps, you need a SPA. if it looks like Gmail you need REST/HATEOS. and if it looks like google’s mainpage, you need a server side rendering.
At some point you might see the light, and go back to making your websites simpler, but Im not hopeful. Until then I’m building the majority of things with HTMX and alpineJs.
Say that to the madlad who wrote a virtual machine in js that can boot Linux and Windows: https://bellard.org/jslinux/
Something something he could, something he should
Never heard of marquee or blink, eh?
And why did you feel the need to bring up those suppressed memories?
Doing Odin Project now and the constant shiting on JS online is sort of crushing my motivation. 😫
Honest answer: JS is a shitty language and I despise it. BUT you can learn a ton of stuff with that, all the features (loops, conditions, variables, etc.) that exist in other languages. You will hate JS one day too, but right now it’s good to learn, and when you’ll switch to other languages, you’ll be happy you learned something.
So yes, JS sucks, but no, it won’t be useless for your future. Keep on working, programming is really fun.
Don’t let it get to you. This is mostly just a circlejerk by people who don’t even use JS themselves.
onlyoriginalPHP dynamic sites, Ruby on Rails, or MVC in whatever language works for you is really what we should be doing
I thought that’s what GIF was created for… Even if the original introduction of it is saying something completely different.
“Sometimes there is a better choice than JavaScript”
We call it TypeScript
I heard they’re looking to add typing to JavaScript in a very similar style as TypeScript. Basically running TypeScript in the browser without
tsc.There’s at least a proposal which I hope they’ll continue with.
Great, the programmer humor has inherited “JavaScript bad” from Reddit.
That’s not a Reddit thing. That’s just a thing.
Things can be both bad and useful.
whoa whoa whoa
how can we have a flamewar if youre going to be all reasonable like that
JavaScript is an abomination and real jobs don’t use it
Huh, page displays nothing without js.
Just typescript at that point
css can do animations, and it’s much more performant then js. I hate how over-used JavaScript is on “modern” websites.
some websites are even straight up unusable or don’t display anything with js disabled…
