OPINION: After the auditor general’s explosive Greenbelt report, resignations and further investigations are the only way to restore some sense of integrity

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    1 year ago

    Government procurement is supposed to be open and transparent so that the people get the best value. 15 of 16 being rich developer friends of the premier does not suggest that the people are getting the best value.

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      1 year ago

      The land registry contains the actual amount paid. You don’t have to guess based on MPAC figures from seven years ago. It is for tax purposes, not profitability calculations.

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        If it’s all above board why did 15 of 16 actions benefit his buddies?

        Trudeau took a vacation with an old family friend and “conservatives” lost their minds. They’re still flogging that dead horse to this day. Why are you out here apologizing for this clear and will documented corruption by a “Conservative” government?

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          1 year ago

          Is there a reason you believe MPAC numbers are more accurate than what is contained in the land registry?

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            1 year ago

            Sorry…you were going to tell my why you think this was completely above board when 15 of 16 changed benefited Doug Ford’s rich developer buddies.

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              No, I wasn’t. I have no reason for a new topic, especially one so boring. What is one going to even say other than repeat the same speculation made a million times before? I know nothing more than you do with respect to your question and it is likely that I know a lot less. I defer to your expertise.

              Our discussion about understanding why you decided to use MPAC prices in your comment was just fine, and one not needing someone to guess arbitrarily for no reason. Using MPAC figures may have been a reasonable choice, but we are looking for you to explain your reason for choosing this particular methodology amid its obvious pitfalls.

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                No, we weren’t. We were talking about the abject corruption of the Ford Government. You tried to turn it into a pedantic argument about the source of my numbers.

                So, about that abject corruption. Why do you think that 15 of 16 of the changes benefited Doug Ford’s rich developer friends, you know the ones, they attended his daughters wedding and got fat, government patronage appointments?

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                  We were talking about the abject corruption of the Ford Government.

                  Okay, and from that what have you learned that you didn’t already know?

                  You tried to turn it into a pedantic argument about the source of my numbers.

                  Well, you were asked why you felt MPAC numbers were better than land registry numbers. I assume you are not a chicken when your head cut off and therefore are putting thought into your actions, so understanding why you made that decision provides us with useful information. If you want to talk about what is going on, we need a shared understanding. I don’t want to flail around like a chicken with my head cut off either. That would be stupid and pointless.

                  Why do you think that 15 of 16 of the changes benefited Doug Ford’s rich developer friends, you know the ones, they attended his daughters wedding and got fat, government patronage appointments?

                  Again, I defer to your expertise. I do not yet have the knowledge to speak intelligently to the matter. Hopefully I can get there someday, but I can’t even get an answer to some of the cursory questions without some lame attempt to change the subject, so it is not looking good.

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                    You don’t need to defer to my expertise. It’s all in the report. The Ford government is abjectly corrupt. Ford is abjectly corrupt. It doesn’t really matter what numbers you use the end result is still the same. If rich, connected developers are making billions of dollars of profit that is billions of dollars that are not benefiting the people of Ontario. Had this been done fairly and transparently with other developers involved the people might (probably would have gotten) a much better benefit. This wasn’t don’t to improve the housing situation. Improving the housing situation was the cover for corruptly giving billions of dollars of benefit to rich, connected, friends of Doug Ford.