Leaker here is Brad Lynch, who generally seems reliable as a leaker for Valve software and products. He was also the source for the leaked renders of the steam controller.
Leaker here is Brad Lynch, who generally seems reliable as a leaker for Valve software and products. He was also the source for the leaked renders of the steam controller.
That controller is the lynchpin for making a mini PC my future home theater center. I care for it more than the steam machine
Same. Its a perfect device for running an HTPC / living room gaming device. Im planning navigate through streaming options, kodi, steam remote play, moonlight, and a bunch of emulators all with the same controller.
I hear yeah, I want that Controller, its everything I asked for after using the Deck plus more. My Steam Account is preloaded with Money cause I remember when the Steam Deck went pre order the payment processing couldnt keep up. Frame is interesting. But probably way to expensive for the little interest I have.
Oh thank you for the heads up! I might add money myself for this.
Look up the Logitech k400. All my home theaters have computers and they all have that keyboard hahaha
Same! It’s perfection.
I was reading that comment and thinking, how will you type!?
I hope it’s not the same horrendous on screen keyboard as with the previous controller.
It’s okay, if it’s the steam deck type. Each thumb is half a keyboard. It’s okay… but it’s not anything like having a nice full size TLK keyboard with a touchpad! I would LOVE a wireless mech touchpad keyboard that can switch between devices. I have a RK 98 keyboard that can do wireless2.4, wired, and three BT devices—my dream is that keyboard but with a touchpad built in! Alas, the k400 is the best we can get right now, and that’s okay. My only issue was figuring out how we kept enabling and disabling tap-to-click… it took us YEARS to realize we were accidentally hitting FN+clic! x3
I know you didn’t ask but i recommend looking into a rii mini keyboard with trackpad as well.
Got the Rii 4 recently to use with my Steam Deck since I got tired of my Roku I bought 6 years ago sending telemetry/statistics outbound (and getting blocked by my PiHole/router combo) that I unplugged it and threw it into a drawer. Excellent little piece of kit!
Me too, I have my home theater set already and this would be the icing on the
Same. I desperately hope they release a version with the regular thumbstick layout instead of the PlayStation layout that’s on the Deck.
“Regular” thumbstick layout? PlayStation’s was first.
EDIT: I see you edited your comment to remove “regular”. Thank you! I’ve always been able to use either kind just fine, but I do prefer symmetrical, probably because I play a lot of 2D games and actually use the d-pad.
This controller was peak design. I was using a DS3 as my go to pc controller for years before the sticks died.
I keep rebuilding the same DS4 controller as it’s ideal as a PC controller, both wired and Bluetooth protocol. But it keeps breaking or wearing down on me and parts keep going up in price and the dang thing is getting beat up. I looked into the 8-bitdo controllers but I didn’t care for the only one they had with the DS layout, their retro one.
I’ll heavily consider the Steam Controller 2 if the price and quality is right.
I love every 8bitdo I own. The pro2 is great, aside from the Nintendo face button labels, it’s become my daily driver and dev controller.
I’m the opposite, Xbox button labels drive me crazy. I learned the layout on the SNES, so it’s hard for me to adjust. I’ve gotten better since playing more PC games on my Steam Deck since the XBox layout is the default, though I always choose PS button prompts if the game has the option.
Universal glyphs are better imo. In my head I call them north, south, east, west instead of a, b, x, y (I’m pretty sure that’s how the facebuttons are labeled in the Linux kernel, regardless of Xbox,Nintendo,ps)
Yes, universal is also good. I like the PS layout because it uses shapes rather than the same letters in different places, though you of course have to memorize which letters are which buttons.
I play so many retro games that i just found it easier to memorize all the different controllers.
Did your 8bitdo only have nintendo buttons as an option? I was able to pick from three designs for my 8bitdo pro 2
What about a PS5 controller?
Roommate has one and I didn’t like the feel as much as the DS4 and the DS4 is cheaper than the DS5. But I had been considering the DS4 over the 8-bitdo, and this is so minor, but I liked that the DS controllers had the speaker compatibility with Death Stranding 1 and 2 to add some little sound effects to the game. Tho those are the only two games I’ve seen it work with on the PC so it’s so so minor.
The PS1 controller was my first real PC controller btw, with an adapter! Back then it was such a blast to play emulation with such a great controller. As other PC controllers sucked for the most part.
It was kind of a pain to find a good controller for PC back in the day. It was nice when standard console controllers just worked with it.
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lol but seriously who cares who’s first if we’re going with who’s thumbstick layout was first then it’s n64 and I think we agree nobody wants that
Wii, Wii U, and Steam Deck (soon Steam Controller) did it that way
N64 wasn’t dual analog, so not relevant since it wasn’t symmetrical or asymmetrical.
n64 is relevant in any discussion about analog sticks on console controllera
The layout was very very non standard and had a single stick. I’m smoking a lot of weed but I can tell you the n64 controller doesn’t count here.
I said it was first I didn’t say it was standard. But being the first it definitionally can’t be “nonstandard” since it was the only one at the time!
I’ll just include consoles that came with symmetrical or asymmetrical for simplicity’s sake:
Symmetrical:
PS2: 160 million
PS3: 87 million
PS4: 117 million
PS5: 92 million
Wii U: 14 million
Symmetrical total: 470 million
Asymmetrical:
Xbox: 24 million
Xbox 360: 84 million
Xbox One: 58 million
Xbox Series X: 35 million
Gamecube: 21 million
Switch: 155 million
Switch 2: 17 million
Asymmetrical total: 394 million
More people have played on symmetrical controllers than asymmetrical.
I prefer assymetrical xbox style for modern games where the analog stick is more important than dpad. For oldschool games I prefer the dpad on the outside (symmetrical) like Playstation does. Just my opinion.
Similar opinion here! What I’ve noticed since the NES, is that my hands are largely symmetrical, and so the better layout depends more on the game than anything. For example, Microsoft had the advantage for a long time in racing games! Longer triggers giving better control, left stick in a spot making symmetry with the face buttons so everything goes naturally over steering, throttle, brake and whatever the face buttons do in the specific game, maybe turbo or…
Similarly, that layout favors games where camera control isn’t important (or possible) like action games, platformers and so on, focusing on movement and actions.
Now, the symmetrical sticks? They are perfect for things like fps, as the hands will be comfortably over the same spots: both thumbs on analogs, index and middle fingers over shoulder buttons and if there’s back buttons even a better alternative to face buttons!
And as mentioned in another comment, the Steam Deck has everything on the same level, making it perfect for anything. <3
I have played so much that nowadays I don’t even notice the difference in layout so much, be it the Dual Sense for games that support it or the GameSir Cyclone 2 for the rest (TMR sticks!) but what I DO notice is the not anymore start and select. Press “mystery button” to open the menu and I’m there, trying to figure out if it’s the one on the right or left side…
I can use either, but prefer symmetrical given a choice.
hardly any of those are still in production by that logic a regular TV is a crt lol
Why would a single analog stick be relevant in a discussion of whether symmetrical or asymmetrical analog sticks are “regular”?
that’s not what the discussion is about
The PlayStation controller is the same as a SNES controller, but with two sticks and finger grips.
Xbox took thier controller design from the Dreamcast. Which came out long after the SNES, and before the xbox.
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What other way? The A and B buttons?
The sticks? I just explained to you why they have the layouts they do.