You take the bike down to the train station and bring it with you on the train. Caveat: Your country needs to have train lines that are actually usable.
My country doesn’t, and I am seriously getting sick of hearing that the forms of transportation we are systematically forced into being called inferior when we have no other realistic choice. Everything and anything is at a bare minimum 15 miles away from me in the Appalachian foothils. Even the very best cyclist would tire easily on these hills in just a few miles. I mean nothing to you personally, but I am beyond sick of the extremely privileged “fuck cars” mentality. I am going full rant here, but I don’t have another fuck to give. If you are able to walk or bike to a location to do whatever you want you are much more privileged than the average American. And the entire ethos around “lol fuck you just walk or bike” is precisely why we got into a fascist state.
I’ve been under the impression that “fuckcars” has always been more about “fuck this system that we have developed that makes cars a necessity” and not about " fuck you for driving a car." It has always seemed more like anger at the system than at individuals to me.
Theres probably a bunch more reasons than just transportion culture wars that the us is turning fascist, i would imagine, but yeah that was what i was getting at. Very aware that many places in America only are build for cars.
Which is a damn shame. You shouldnt have yo be forced like that. But u know, money and power, big Industry lobbyism and decades of fearmongering about market regulations and public services, thatl get you a situation like that.
Wasnt trying to be snarky or anything fyi, clarifying because im quite over thinking too much about tone, downside being people sormtime misunderstand my vibes. ✌️
Think part of the ‘fuck cars’ problem is the messaging lacks nuance. For example, the problems nearly do not exist in your scenario. Their problems are mainly around big city centers, and perhaps transit between those big cities. Appalachian foothills hardly have enough traffic or land usage to trigger the usual complaints.
Conversely, mass transit is a particularly terrible idea for Appalachia. Rural contexts in general make mass transit a challenge, but those slopes mean you pretty much have to have roads way too curvy for any bus, let alone getting rail going.
In short, a hellscape of traffic lights and crosswalks with no where to build because you have to split it with cars, I get the ‘fuck cars’ sentiment, but rural and esspecially mountainous areas, well cars are about the only reasonable answer.
Short rant: Your first sentence touches on a microcosm of a much larger problem. Nuance and context are disappearing everywhere. As far as threats to society go, it’s in my number one spot, and we really need more people actively dismantling it like this, so thanks.
I once had a 22 Mile round trip bicycle commute and there were absolutely no buses or trains or any type of public transport available from point A to point b. I finally had to quit that job in the thick of winter when snow made bicycling impossible, but before I quit, I got there walking/ running for a couple months.
If you average 10 mph on a bike, it’d be over 120 miles each way. If you have to spend like 5 or 6 hours each day just commuting, you probably should just move closer to your work.
Good job! Have fun with your 40 mile commute.
You take the bike down to the train station and bring it with you on the train. Caveat: Your country needs to have train lines that are actually usable.
My country doesn’t, and I am seriously getting sick of hearing that the forms of transportation we are systematically forced into being called inferior when we have no other realistic choice. Everything and anything is at a bare minimum 15 miles away from me in the Appalachian foothils. Even the very best cyclist would tire easily on these hills in just a few miles. I mean nothing to you personally, but I am beyond sick of the extremely privileged “fuck cars” mentality. I am going full rant here, but I don’t have another fuck to give. If you are able to walk or bike to a location to do whatever you want you are much more privileged than the average American. And the entire ethos around “lol fuck you just walk or bike” is precisely why we got into a fascist state.
I’ve been under the impression that “fuckcars” has always been more about “fuck this system that we have developed that makes cars a necessity” and not about " fuck you for driving a car." It has always seemed more like anger at the system than at individuals to me.
That’s the spirit of the community but, as in all things on the Internet, it naturally has attracted extremists which have impacted the vibe.
Reading literally any single comment in a fuckcars community would prove this to be false
Theres probably a bunch more reasons than just transportion culture wars that the us is turning fascist, i would imagine, but yeah that was what i was getting at. Very aware that many places in America only are build for cars.
Which is a damn shame. You shouldnt have yo be forced like that. But u know, money and power, big Industry lobbyism and decades of fearmongering about market regulations and public services, thatl get you a situation like that.
Wasnt trying to be snarky or anything fyi, clarifying because im quite over thinking too much about tone, downside being people sormtime misunderstand my vibes. ✌️
Yeah. I kinda snapped and didn’t intend to be mean. My mental state is not great.
No worries comrade, we all crash sometimes (i do at least). Take care ❤️
That’ll increase your premium.
Halp I don’t get the joke
Crash… insurance policy… i’ll see myself out.
I imagine having to commute for that amount of distance in a car each day is not helping. I hope your situation improves, you do not deserve the pain
Think part of the ‘fuck cars’ problem is the messaging lacks nuance. For example, the problems nearly do not exist in your scenario. Their problems are mainly around big city centers, and perhaps transit between those big cities. Appalachian foothills hardly have enough traffic or land usage to trigger the usual complaints.
Conversely, mass transit is a particularly terrible idea for Appalachia. Rural contexts in general make mass transit a challenge, but those slopes mean you pretty much have to have roads way too curvy for any bus, let alone getting rail going.
In short, a hellscape of traffic lights and crosswalks with no where to build because you have to split it with cars, I get the ‘fuck cars’ sentiment, but rural and esspecially mountainous areas, well cars are about the only reasonable answer.
Short rant: Your first sentence touches on a microcosm of a much larger problem. Nuance and context are disappearing everywhere. As far as threats to society go, it’s in my number one spot, and we really need more people actively dismantling it like this, so thanks.
But how else would they feel superior to everyone else?
I once had a 22 Mile round trip bicycle commute and there were absolutely no buses or trains or any type of public transport available from point A to point b. I finally had to quit that job in the thick of winter when snow made bicycling impossible, but before I quit, I got there walking/ running for a couple months.
Sounds awful, sorry you had to go through that
E-bike.
OK, you your $5,000 e- bike stops 3/4 of the way home and it took you an additional 2 hours.
ETA, actually doing the math for my old commute - It would take and additional 12 hours by e-bike. One way.
That’s an impressive commute
If you average 10 mph on a bike, it’d be over 120 miles each way. If you have to spend like 5 or 6 hours each day just commuting, you probably should just move closer to your work.
Yeah, I mean, I hated commuting when it was 1 hour one way, I can’t imagine how I would have hated 3 or more hours