• Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zipEnglish
    167·
    2 days ago

    This doesn’t even make sense. How is supporting palestine “emulating a zionist”. Is this mod just an idiot?

    • curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish
      19·
      2 days ago

      Rimu went straight to defense of MrKaplan and attacking luminous for being anti-zionist, to the point of Kaplan defederating from anarchist.nexus.

      Kind of a words vs actions thing here. IMO, rimu is firmly in the wrong, but I also see no reason for MM to preventively ban, but not my comm so not my decision.

      • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        61·
        2 days ago

        Kind of a words vs actions thing here. IMO, rimu is firmly in the wrong, but I also see no reason for MM to preventively ban, but not my comm so not my decision.

        To add clarification to that, there has been a wave of LW accounts promoting Zionism or just brigading my communities. With that has been a wave of bans (you can check the logs) both reactive and proactive. I know some people don’t like proactive bans, although, honestly it’s unreasonable to expect mods to let shit slide when they see a person they know will cause trouble.

        The fact people harass me here for this doesn’t really help the case against proactive bans. And I assume the reactions I’ll get from here will further reinforce this.

        • curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          Did my comment seem like an attack? I was just saying its not how I like to handle things, but your comm you get the choice.

          • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            71·
            2 days ago

            Not at all. I didn’t mean to sound defensive. I’m usually on high alert when I comment here since others have attacked me and the general sentiment on Lemmy is hostile against proactive moderation even when it is needed to keep communities afloat. I just wanted to be clear on why I do things because there are people who do expect mods to let things like this slide. It’s ultimately up to each mod how they run their communities, and it’s also situational. Some communities might not need proactive moderation at all.

            • curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish
              5·
              2 days ago

              OK just checking, I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t coming across different than intended

              Everyone has a different threshold for a preemptive ban, to me it depends more on interaction. If there isnt any interaction, to me a ban just gets their attention, so I don’t bother. If there’s some (or interaction outside the community that makes it clear its about to be a problem), thats when I personally take action.

              Again though, everyone can have their own approach. If they dont like it, they can start their own comm - thats what makes the fediverse great.

      • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zipEnglish
        8·
        2 days ago

        So what you’re saying is that the banning has absolutely nothing to do with anything in Blaze’s post and he’s just either intentionally or ignorantly misdirecting us.

    • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
      157·
      2 days ago

      The individual in question doesn’t support Palestine, OP added that ‘I have a black friend’-level of nonsense to draw on sympathy.

        • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
          144·
          2 days ago

          …You believe zionists, the current worst genocidal force on the planet, who have killed over their 80 years far more people than the nazi regime ever did… are not authoritarian?

          • mrdown@lemmy.world
            26·
            2 days ago

            As terroristic and genocidal Israel is, they did not kill as much as the original nazi

            • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
              72·
              2 days ago

              Palestine: Average of 10k/year for a hundred years, with at least 500k over the last 2.5 years…

              Lebanon: average 5k/year for 60 years

              Egypt: average 1k/year for 20 years

              Iran: average 1k/year for 50 years

              Syria: average 5k/year for 20 years. (incl. kurdish arming (as proven by Trump’s accidental exposure of zionists arming kurds in Iran so it’s not a conspiracy anymore)

              Iraq: 500k-1million over 30 years

              Afghanistan: 1.5mil-2mil over 40 years.

              Rhodesia: 250k-1 million depending on the reporting body

              South Africa: at least 1 million.

              Again I said zionism. Israel is one of the bases of zionism. It’s not even the main base of zionism. There are more zionists in New York than there are in Israel. And this is just the uncontroversial publicly admitted numbers.

              Realistically we can double all of these numbers if we believe their victims, triple if we go with the most extreme estimates and include every single action from every single zionist (british empire kills since wwi as an example)

              • mrdown@lemmy.world
                93·
                2 days ago

                You are whitewashing the united snakes by associating the murder of Iraqis and afghsns to zionism . The usa empire evilness predate israel and zionism.

                Also cite the sources for each figure