If you don’t want to sign up to sounds you can listen on the terminal using mpv/vlc. Example:

mpv https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001r7jn

Interesting interview - it is incredibly spicy at points. Both of them lost their cool at several points here and I don’t think either of them come out sounding good.

For what it’s worth I think Hallam’s spiel about acting emotionally instead of using critical thinking sounds pretty suspect but clearly he’s found this an effective line to take when campaigning.

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    9 months ago

    Haven’t listened but I don’t know, Robinson is an awful little wank and people like him in the media have played a big role in legitimising poisonous ideas from climate change to capitalism to war. We’re living through a climate crisis, I don’t see why very senior people in politics like him shouldn’t be threatened with prosecution

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      9 months ago

      people like him in the media have played a big role in legitimising poisonous ideas from climate change to capitalism to war.

      I love the “people like him” accusation, without any specifics.

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      9 months ago

      I agree that Robinson is a bit greasy but threatening retribution once a revolution happens has echoes of “Come the revolution, you’ll be first against the wall”. Threats in general cheapen our political discourse.

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        9 months ago

        Tbf I’m not sure Robinson is guilty of “treason” either, I just want to say I don’t think it should be so far-fetched for people who have a lot of influence to be prosecuted for their actions later if they’ve crossed a threshold. Tony Blair taking us to war, Rishi Sunak approving more oil extraction etc in the middle of a climate crisis - absolutely I want to see these people prosecuted.

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      9 months ago

      I don’t see why very senior people in politics like him shouldn’t be threatened with prosecution

      He’s a journalist.

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        9 months ago

        Yes he’s a journalist, a journalist of politics. He has held and still holds very senior roles in political reporting, and with it significant influence on the political conversation of this country, much more than the average person. He’s not a politician but he is in politics.

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          9 months ago

          OK can you expand on that a little? Are you saying that, as a matter of principle, journalists should be threatened with prosecution if they don’t agree with your politics?

          Sorry I’m just not quite clear what the underlying principle is of what you’re saying.

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            9 months ago

            I’m not and frankly I don’t think you’ve posted this in good faith

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              9 months ago

              What’s with everyone saying, “you’re not posting in good faith” when they want to avoid explaining their comments?

              Anyway, that’s cool, I just wanted to understand your reasoning a little more bit but if you don’t want to engage that’s also fine.

              Have a good one 👍.