• Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    12 days ago

    Its mostly for fun and not seriouse.

    Germany and france had the Erbfeindschaft (french-german enmity), a rivalery whoms origin you can trace back all the way to the splitting of the franconian empire or even way back to roman empire times. Because romans vs germanic tribes, and the bor

    England and france have something similair due to the hundred years war shenanigans.

    Spain and Austria and france due to the Habsburgs and French Kingdom having always been at each others throats for dominance over europe

    Russia and France due to Napoleon

    The dutch and the french due to the Kingdom of Burgundy and Napoleon

    Italy and france could be traced back to romans vs gauls but defenetly also has to do with the italian wars, papal shenanigans like the whole avignion popes and constantly interfearing in papal state situations

    I do not know of any more actually proper rivaleries with the france. Today its all jokes and giggles, italy and france only culturally are in a friendly rivalery, germany and france have one of the tightes friendships and is now the franco german friendship :) (im just saying ARTE) I am german and we germans can learn a lot from france, especially cultural wise lots of things i admire about the french people. <3

    Continuons à œuvrer pour une Europe unie et pacifique!

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      12 days ago

      Today its all jokes and giggles

      Some jokes and giggles are very long standing, a pretty large part of the Rhinelandic carnival tradition traces back to mocking the (napoleonic) French, for example…

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        11 days ago

        Which once? None of them that i know come from the occupation but like the rest to mock clergy, nobility, the upper crust in general and ofc some good old germanic paganism

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          11 days ago

          Especially the carnival sessions (with the council of 11, and fanfares after someone speaks, which is a mockery of the official proceedings the French occupation introduced), and the significance of the number 11 as such, as a mockery of the French revolutionary slogan “Egalité, Liberteé, Fraternité”, which was frequently abbreviated as ELF, meaning eleven in German, and used in all sorts of documents and inscriptions of the occupation authorities.