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Silliari@quokk.au to Communism@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 months ago

but apparently china is oppressive

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but apparently china is oppressive

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Silliari@quokk.au to Communism@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 months ago
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    Can’t they be both?

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/02/1133212

    https://www.savetibet.eu/issue/united-nations/

    https://tibetoffice.eu/beijing-faces-fresh-eu-scrutiny-as-lawmakers-convene-a-hearing-to-examine-impact-of-chinas-ethnic-unity-law-on-tibetans-uyghurs-and-other-targeted-groups/

    https://tibet.net/statement-on-international-human-rights-violations-in-tibet-and-chinas-systemic-breaches-of-international-standards/

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      Get new material

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        Why? I’m no suckup to any nation or government. Governments will opress when they feel like they need to.

        The whole of liberal Europe oppressed it’s citizens during covid. I got fined for sitting on a park bench.

        Denmark oppressed the natives in Greenland.

        China… Well…

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          Well what? You don’t have to believe China is perfect to recognize that the Uighur genocide narrative is fictional

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            Oh dear…you know that the screenshot you posted speaks about… betrayal. You should look up Adrian Zenz. He’s not the source you should quote. He’s a member of an anti communist thinktank.

            And about that

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              He’s not the source, he’s just an amusing messenger. The fact that 16 nations sent delegates to investigate and called bullshit on the US is an easily verifiable fact, and one that nobody pushing the Uighur genocide narrative ever has a good answer for.

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                Owkey… So, ‘‘all is queit on the Western front’’?

                https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/5/14/the-faux-anti-imperialism-of-denying-anti-uighur

                https://bitterwinter.org/fake-uyghurs-v-genuine-uyghurs-in-the-hague-what-exactly-happened/

                The only source that I find that tries to debunk the claim in depth is this one

                https://medium.com/@braisedporkblog/debunking-the-uyghur-genocide-a-resource-list-a31dd0ea3d87

                But maybe it is because of the interpretation of the word genocide?

                https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-hasnt-the-un-accused-china-of-genocide-in-xinjiang

                it has to be a systematic, widespread extermination, or attempted extermination, of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. There are elements that are present in the Chinese case, but it’s not clear that the intent is to lead to the extermination of a particular ethnic group.

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