Food is a human right in the means of availability in stores. You still gotta pay for it. We can’t just be animals and hunt and kill our food especially in the city, so industrialized food is what we got. You either deal with the potential of being killed while killing your meal or you suck it up and go to the grocery store. Either way youre stressed af and never truly satisfied.
Water on the other hand should be a basic human right and people should be charged half for their water bill. Like we can all fight and kill each other but at the end of the day how are we gonna do that if we can’t get water? We’re still animals. We still need water.
Basic clean water, healthy food, healthcare and housing should all be guaranteed human rights as a baseline. If you want better versions of any of them then you have to work for it.
Fair. Though, who’s gonna pay for the water, food, healthcare and housing? Paycheck or protection for the people? Feed the struggling and struggle more on the what 16$/hr and then beg for a raise because of more taxes that you wanted or what? It’s naive to think that it’s a possibility to feed, house and medically care for everyone without having some kind of a forethought otherwise you’re stuck with negative hindsight. I don’t know how to be more rational about this.
Seems easy to me. Taxes have to be high enough so that everyone gets those minimums we discussed. They cannot be lower. And all government spending should go to fixing the basic human rights first before a single penny is allocated to anything else.
I’m happy to pay a higher tax rate.
Whatever works so that no one has to be homeless or hungry.
Okay so doing the math and I hope I’m right and this is without Ai because I know how much you all hate it. So there’s 350mil people in the US. There’s 163mil working individuals. It’s 6.3E11 to provide $1,800 month which means if you divide that by the amount of workers you get 3865.0306748466257668. So I’m willing to guess that’s how much a month it would cost to the workers of this country to provide $1,800/MO to everyone in the entire country. Which means you’d have to make that figure smaller because not everyone makes enough to cover that a month.
So that means that if every worker reached that 3865.0306748466257668 every 9 months by paying 429.44785276073619631 a month in extra taxes…
It would take 13.24 years taxing the 429.44785276073619631 extra to the working people of the US to have enough money saved up for everyone in the country (current population of 350mil) for 25 years based on the 1,800$/MO income that would be dispensed.
I understand it’s just paper with cloth fiber that has no value unless we put that value to it. Yes, I understand money is a valueless idea but you take it away Humans are gonna wanna trade something whether it’s your skills or your philosophical babbling, they’re gonna want something in return. You take away one thing you replace it with another. So if someone asks you to cement their driveway you’re gonna want something in return, you might want food, their time back or now you get one night in their home.
We just made a trillionaire. You’re fucking joking, right? Is it really more important to you for one person to have more than they can even comprehend than for basic human needs to be met in a world where we have everything required to support the needs of everyone across the board and still have excess? Because if so, that’s as pathetic as it is stupid and heartless.
Whatever we save for the future for this population size will not cover the future population. So no matter what you will never have enough to feed, house and provide medical care for everyone.
So relative to this population size is what saving for the future using the previously given equation would give. Meaning you could save more in less time but that’s more taxes. Then you’d have inflationary rates making it so paychecks only match the rising cost of goods…
Food is a human right in the means of availability in stores. You still gotta pay for it. We can’t just be animals and hunt and kill our food especially in the city, so industrialized food is what we got. You either deal with the potential of being killed while killing your meal or you suck it up and go to the grocery store. Either way youre stressed af and never truly satisfied.
Water on the other hand should be a basic human right and people should be charged half for their water bill. Like we can all fight and kill each other but at the end of the day how are we gonna do that if we can’t get water? We’re still animals. We still need water.
Basic clean water, healthy food, healthcare and housing should all be guaranteed human rights as a baseline. If you want better versions of any of them then you have to work for it.
Fair. Though, who’s gonna pay for the water, food, healthcare and housing? Paycheck or protection for the people? Feed the struggling and struggle more on the what 16$/hr and then beg for a raise because of more taxes that you wanted or what? It’s naive to think that it’s a possibility to feed, house and medically care for everyone without having some kind of a forethought otherwise you’re stuck with negative hindsight. I don’t know how to be more rational about this.
Seems easy to me. Taxes have to be high enough so that everyone gets those minimums we discussed. They cannot be lower. And all government spending should go to fixing the basic human rights first before a single penny is allocated to anything else.
I’m happy to pay a higher tax rate.
Whatever works so that no one has to be homeless or hungry.
Okay so doing the math and I hope I’m right and this is without Ai because I know how much you all hate it. So there’s 350mil people in the US. There’s 163mil working individuals. It’s 6.3E11 to provide $1,800 month which means if you divide that by the amount of workers you get 3865.0306748466257668. So I’m willing to guess that’s how much a month it would cost to the workers of this country to provide $1,800/MO to everyone in the entire country. Which means you’d have to make that figure smaller because not everyone makes enough to cover that a month.
So that means that if every worker reached that 3865.0306748466257668 every 9 months by paying 429.44785276073619631 a month in extra taxes…
Money is made up. You know that money is made up, right? That’s only a limitation because society chose for it to be.
It would take 13.24 years taxing the 429.44785276073619631 extra to the working people of the US to have enough money saved up for everyone in the country (current population of 350mil) for 25 years based on the 1,800$/MO income that would be dispensed.
So, no, you don’t at all understand that money isn’t real.
I understand it’s just paper with cloth fiber that has no value unless we put that value to it. Yes, I understand money is a valueless idea but you take it away Humans are gonna wanna trade something whether it’s your skills or your philosophical babbling, they’re gonna want something in return. You take away one thing you replace it with another. So if someone asks you to cement their driveway you’re gonna want something in return, you might want food, their time back or now you get one night in their home.
It’s always something.
Nothing says “I understand maths and economics” quite like giving every number to 16 decimal places.
We just made a trillionaire. You’re fucking joking, right? Is it really more important to you for one person to have more than they can even comprehend than for basic human needs to be met in a world where we have everything required to support the needs of everyone across the board and still have excess? Because if so, that’s as pathetic as it is stupid and heartless.
Whatever we save for the future for this population size will not cover the future population. So no matter what you will never have enough to feed, house and provide medical care for everyone.
We do, though, we currently have that capacity. It’s just barred by capitalism, ego, and crippling stupidity.
So relative to this population size is what saving for the future using the previously given equation would give. Meaning you could save more in less time but that’s more taxes. Then you’d have inflationary rates making it so paychecks only match the rising cost of goods…
We don’t have the ability to do it for everyone.
Do you mean redistribute wealth from billionaires? I think it’s been pretty well established, that will never happen.