I did a search from shitjustworks for “reddit die” and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a “ping” sent out to notify all other federated instances.

And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.

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    The devs actually talked about this in the AMA from a couple of days ago. Sounds like the current plan is to have all federating servers send their entire list of communities to each other on a regular basis.

    The other thing that I think is worth mentioning is Lemmy Community Boost which is basically a bot that serves the same purpose.

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    A good implementation would be a warning at the creation of a community. Lemmy looks if a community already exist on the instances and display them. It would be on top of a better search.

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    Isn’t that intentional though? I don’t believe many instances, especially the small ones, can afford to federate every community. Sure, sometimes it can be a bit annoying but you can always check on lemmyverse.

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      As a middle-ground, I think it’s enough to only sync the community name and user count and maybe the description. More isn’t shown in the search anyway and those 3 data points shouldn’t take too much storage.

      Syncing name solves the problem of communities not showing up. The problem with only being shown posts in a community someone on the instance has already subscribed to is more difficult, as you wrote.

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      It should show up in community search even if they’re not constantly pulling down every single post of those communities

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    Lemmyverse.net show both communities: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=watchreddit

    It probably didn’t show up in the first place it only has 66 subscribers, and probably none on SJW.

    About your second point, you indeed have to promote your community, using !newcommunities@lemmy.world, or related communities. This works quite well usually.

    I will add that in your case, people knew about your community as you posted in other communities, but as discussed then, people seemed happy with the existing Reddit-focused communities.

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      This works quite well usually.

      I definitely don’t agree. I think this is very problematic. I rely on all to find new communities. I don’t think one newcommunities sub is a valid replacement. It would suffer from the same issue – people would have to spam their post to every single instances’s newcommunities sub, which is ridiculous and not even viable.

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        But your solution would require every new instance to subscribe to every community in existence even if no users there care about certain ones. It’s innefficient.

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          How would you know no one cares if no one can even see them…

          “Inefficient” doesn’t seem important since if there’s no content/activity there then it doesn’t use any resources.

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        Relying on !all to have your newly created community to reach most of the people could work, but using the Scaled sort as it wouldn’t have enough subscribers to push it using Hot or Active.

        There is only one !newcommunities@lemmy.world, it has 15k subscribers, seems like a pretty good way to promote it.

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          I’m not even subscribed to that, and even if I was, and it was a default subscription for every new lemmy.world user, I don’t think it’s a good replacement for a functional search or an all that includes all posts from federated instances. I see lots of posts on all-hot with 0-5 upvotes so it seems fine if it actually showed all communities on federated instances (which it doesn’t).

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            Folks have given you a half dozen solutions here and your answer is consistently dismissive.

            Did you want your problem solved or did you just want to bitch and argue?

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              I don’t agree that they are solutions. The only proposed solutions are in the new github issue that someone created.

              did you just want to bitch and argue?

              I want lemmy to be better. I want it to be a viable alternative to reddit so people will leave that site.

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                i mean since you’re gonna be a twat about it, there’s an easy fucking solution: fork lemmy and adjust the federation to your liking.

                if you’re not willing to do that, or any of the other workarounds in this thread, you’re just bitching to bitch.