In audio released Friday evening, senators and representatives from Ohio and Michigan revealed the “endgame” is to ban transgender care “for everyone.”

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    That’s only because they don’t think they can reintroduce chattel slavery. Their actual endgame, if they accomplish this, will be much, much worse.

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        I’d say it’s more the dog that caught the car. They need trans people to exist so they can whip their base up into a panic over trans people existing. Total victory, then, means they need to move on to a new target to hate. It’s hate in and of itself that matters to them, hate is more than a necessary evil, it’s the ultimate object of their desire.

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        The slippery slope implies that it’s some kind of accident.

        They’re dragging us kicking and screaming into a ditch.

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          Slippery slope implies that allowing the change will mean sliding further and further in the same direction. Intent does not matter.

          This is a slippery slope because every time they say something has a limited scope they just keep increasing the scope.

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            i disagree - the word sliding can imply a passivity in things that current republican intent certainly counter-indicates.

            i’m not generally pulled down slippery slopes against my will, original wording of the phrase aside.

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            The slippery-ness of the slope is inherently about intent. If the slope is slippery then it isn’t their fault for falling down the slope.

            This slope isn’t slippery. It’s a stair case into fascism and they are goose stepping down the steps and dragging us by the hair.

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              The slippery slope can easily be unintentional, like the fear that giving something up will just naturally lead to other things being given up as a logical extension of the first thing. That is why slippery slopes are often described when making exemptions for certain rights. It is not that someone is intentionally going to expand the exemptions, but that exemptions tend to lead to more and more exemptions as a slippery slope.

              This one is intentional. Some slippery slopes are intentional and some are accidental. Intent does not matter.

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                What do you think “slippery” means? If you slip, it’s unintentional. This is not a slippery slope. This is an intentional methodological plan.

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                  Someone can intentionally trick someone onto a slippery slope and grease it up to make the slide faster, like Republicans are doing right now with undermining abortion and LBGTQ+ rights while claiming it isn’t a slippery slope.

                  Where do you get the idea that a slippery slope must be unintentional?

                  Is someone slipping on a banana peel unintentional if someone drops the peel in front of them? Do you think you might be taking the word ‘slippery’ a little too literally?

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                    Republicans aren’t tricking us into falling down a slippery slope either, we’re just being dragged down the stairs by our hair and they’re marching down with us. There’s no slipping.

                    Another important factor of a slippery slope: once you start to slip you can’t easily stop. That’s not what this is at all. Stopping would be really easy if we weren’t being forced down this path.

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      We already have slavery and it’s working quite nicely. We just renamed them “illegal immigrants”.

      I think people get hung up thinking slaves were cost-free to the slaveholders. Of course they weren’t! Just like any livestock, you gotta feed and shelter them, breed them, take care of the offspring until they become productive, etc.

      The current slave system is brilliant! Pay 'em some change, so no one can call them slaves, and let them figure out all the items above. If anyone comes along and says maybe we should provide… STFU socialist! You trying to take MY money and give it to people breaking the law?!

      It gets better! Now we can use fear of these people to get votes, keep in power. (Fuck it, I’m exhausted, you all know where I’m going with this.)

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        Not sure if you’re ignorant to reality or what. Your comparison falls flat and looks childish because the US still has actual slaves. Not metaphorically, not hyperbolically, but actual, literal slaves.

        The 13th amendment banned slavery EXCEPT as punishment for a crime. And hoo-boy has the US taken that to heart. One of the reasons we have more of our population imprisoned than any other country is we use prisoners as slave labor. Actual, literal, slave labor.