A Mississippi man accused of destroying a statue of a pagan idol at Iowa’s state Capitol is now being charged with a hate crime.

  • lem_dart@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    Ah the beauty of TST… Laid a trap and some moron took the bait. I’m sure they had to do it because “persecution” or something like that.

    • butt_mountain_69420@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Trapping christians is like shooting fish in a barrel. Since childhood they’ve been punished for critical thinking and rewarded for public displays of religious intolerance and ignorance.

  • cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    We’ve long since come full circle (well, I guess half circle). The satanists embody virtue and the christians evil.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      That’s always been the case. The only people who think that Satanists actually worship satan are idiots.

      Every single Satanist i’ve ever met, and I haven’t met a lot I admit, are just nice people who don’t understand why the church is so powerful considering all the crimes they’ve covered up over the years. Especially considering that practically every single “Christian” democracy claims to separate church and state.

      • systemglitch@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        Funny the satanists I knew were all about manipulation of everyone they encountered. Even gave me a book on it.

  • Facebones@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    My guess is somebody clued them in that if they didn’t hit this guy with a hate crime then there would be precedent to protect people from hate crime status for crimes against Christian property.

    • butt_mountain_69420@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      That’s not really how precedent works. Not choosing to charge him with a hate crime would be a matter of prosecutorial discretion, and wouldn’t affect other prosecutors’ charging decisions. You better believe if you took a shit on whatever jeebus monument they have at the Mississippi Capitol they’d put you under the jail with every imaginable charge.

  • Kid_Thunder@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    she has accused the Satanic Temple of making filings that “are only meant to evoke strong emotions and incite others.”

    Uh yeah, it isn’t a secret or anything.

    What’s next? Is she going to say “I don’t think they actually believe in Baphomet either!”

    • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      As a Satanist myself, I honestly think that would/should be their lawyers case.

      We are atheists and the argument that we’re not really a religion is something conservative courts might believe.

      I haven’t looked into any filings for religious exemption/status, etc so I’m not sure how we’ve made our case in the past. I think we should be prepared to advocate that our mutual belief in the seven tenets is our religion.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      “How dare you sue me for the crimes you passively goaded me into committing in your attempt to prove the value of the law”

  • PutangInaMo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Good opportunity to spread the word:

    Hail Satan? Is a great documentary about TST, highly encouraged to watch.

      • Zetta@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        The intent is to force feed some of their own medicine back down their throats, I believe

              • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                8 months ago

                Look, it’s clear that you don’t understand TST.

                What better way to spread awareness of religious liberty than to bait zealots into committing hate crimes, and then throwing the book at them?

                Assholes like this guy are a direct threat to liberty. Expose them and make examples of them. Set the precedent that Christianity doesn’t excuse fascism before Christians set the opposite precedent.

                • EatATaco@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  What better way to spread awareness of religious liberty than to bait zealots into committing hate crimes

                  Making people angry is probably the least effective way to get them to see your side. It’s well established that when people feel attacked, they are less open to changing their views. Of course, in cases like this, it’s probably impossible to avoid angering people.

                  But I see nothing in your post that actually shows what the TST thinks on this, only what you think is the best course of action.

                • EatATaco@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  But let me guess, were wrong.

                  Considering there are 3 of you and you all have different explanations, at least 2 have to be wrong. But I gave you the link to their reasoning, which is not what any of the three have said.

  • Veedem@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Ain’t it a bitch when OTHERS use the right you thought only you’d be able to use? What a dumbass.

  • Bluetooth@feddit.dk
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    And the Cristian wack jobs are in full force donating to his legal defense. Already at 116.000 usd, with completely normal and not at all fanatic comments, like “_ May God punish the foul souls bringing charges against you! There is a higher law than man made law, and you are upon that law. God bless you and keep you._”. Abhorrent behavior…

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      God damn, I wish I didn’t have morals and a conscience… With my knowledge of religion and the scriptures I could be making BANK milking the gullible.

      • Tyfud@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        This is my same struggle every day having been raised in a preacher’s home.

        Reading the Bible is what turned me into an atheist

  • n0m4n@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    8 months ago

    TBH, Baphomet is a honey trap for religious nuts to go after.

    It would not be a surprise to see one hold Baphomet’s decapitated head up in triumph and proclaim himself leader of God’s army. I wish that I was kidding.

    • Tyfud@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      They believe the absolute most insane things, like there’s an invisible war going that they’re somehow the protagonists in. A story written just for them.

      Unfortunately , we’re all just npcs to them and they are willing to let everyone on earth suffer and die, if that’s what they think their imaginary friends in their heads wants.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        They believe the absolute most insane things, like there’s an invisible war going that they’re somehow the protagonists in. A story written just for them.

        Straight from St. Paul. Maybe they shouldn’t have picked to follow a man with narrasistic personality disorder.

    • platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      That’s the whole point of this religion, to trigger religious people. There no other reason to pick the satanic symbolism.

      It’s like “oh yeha, you want freedom to believe whatever insane thing you want and push it into the secular state? We can do that too, bitch” kinda thing.

      Which is good, the only problem I see is that some people seem like they are starting to get attached to the religion.

      • n0m4n@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        If you look at what the religion actually has as its tenets, it is more mainstream and mentally healthier than a number of Christian religions. I still am not a member, tho, just looking in from the outside. The triggering is not the point of the religion, but is an activism to defend a separation of church and state. I grew up in a cult religion, and REALLY do not want any religion to be part of government.

        • platypus_plumba@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          8 months ago

          I think that the tenets of any religion are worthless, and we have all the other religions as evidence. You can have any set of tenets, people will do whatever they want as long as it is convenient.

          • Loki@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            Your last point may well be true; but have you checked out the TST tenets?

            I

            One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

            II

            The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

            III

            One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

            IV

            The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.

            V

            Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

            VI

            People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

            VII

            Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

    • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      …If the government is going to permit one ideology to put up religious iconography on their grounds, then they must include the other religions stop and take those down.

      • Coasting0942@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        8 months ago

        At the moment, SCOTUS treats no belief as a separate religion. In our life times we are going to have to aim for the more achievable “all religions matter”.

        • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          8 months ago

          SCOTUS gets something wrong, what a shocker. You set your goals for how much progress you want to see in a lifetime and I’ll set mine.

    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Second bit seems risky. I’d flip it around: May the law be done in accordance with justice.

      Our world has seen some pretty horrific things done in accordance with some pretty horrific laws.