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    Men work more overtime, take on more risks, and are more willing to put themselves in danger.

    Men get paid more, because they are willing to pay the extra pound of flesh it demands, because they have a bit more flesh to offer. Men have higher average stamina, physical strength, and physical resilience.

    I won’t necessarily say that’s a good thing, but it’s a fact. There’s a reason all the dangerous jobs are male dominated, but simultaneously men die on the job or get severely maimed substantially more.

    Interestingly enough if you look at a woman dominated industry that is extremely dangerous abd demands a pound of flesh (like prostitution) suddenly the gender gap flips heavily the other way.

    As I always say, you don’t see people talking about gender disparity of garbage truck drivers and other areas of the sanitation industry, even though there’s a lot of disparity over there.

    Why aren’t people complaining about the lack of women in the sanitation industry? Weird, huh?

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        Anecdotal warning: From my experience going tk a gandful of schools in western canada… inner city schools bias towards women dimishes due to higher risk conditions. The gender ratio shifts as you go from nicer well funded schools to inner city poorer neighborhoods.

        The higher risk schools tend to have way more men teaching as well as male cops walking around, whereas the gentrified safer schools tend to be women dominated.

        It still leand towards women, but the lean evens out a lot more as risk/danger goes up, as well as pay.

        You also see more male teachers if you go way up to far northern schools that have much harsher conditions, where governments trade to provide monetary incentives in return for roughing it up on way more secluded places.

        So, nope, from what I’ve seen the pattern holds just as much in teaching.

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      Over 90% of the people that die in any high risk jobs, on construction sites and in wars are… men. Why is there no complaint about equal deaths? Or, why are military recruitment standards different for men and women?

      Here is another one. Talk about female SA and suddenly you get infinite people and weirdos coming out of their caves in support. Talk about male SA and everyone looks the other way. Some feminists will even come and dunk on the abused male.

      There is a lot of selective agenda going on that must be against men, no matter what, something I will keep voicing against. If anyone shits on men, they are not my ally.

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        The reality is that the patriarchy also oppresses most men who arent super rich white men (and they still have weird oppressive restrictions placed on them) and in the following case:

        Talk about male SA and everyone looks the other way. Some feminists will even come and dunk on the abused male.

        Liberal feminism and cultural feminism make for shitty reactionary feminism that still enforces rape culture. You can’t replace class analysis that includes analysis of gendered oppression with “men are oppressors and women are oppressed”

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          patriarchy also oppresses most men who arent super rich white men

          Absolutely.

          On a side note, if we were to frame the inherent biases of feminist movement today vaguely as “matriarchy”, does it also not work against all men blindly? With “patriarchy” you have elites and white Anglo men benefitting exclusively. No matter what, non white men that are not 1% elite keep suffering and bearing the burden of societal struggles and selfish elite factions. What are we supposed to do, when feminists openly say men and their struggles are not their responsibility? Would non white men not want to protect themselves?

          Liberal feminism and cultural feminism make for shitty reactionary feminism that still enforces rape culture.

          YES! Finally I hear something good. Radical and reactionary elements backpedal us from societal progress towards equality. Biases in academia need to stop, so that we can quantify society objectively instead of trying to force ourselves towards a particular end result.

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            You might like “The Will to Change” by feminist bell hooks which goes into the devaluing of men amongst other things.

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        Over 90% of the people that die in any high risk jobs, on construction sites and in wars are… men. Why is there no complaint about equal deaths?

        You know women were only cleared for all positions in the military as of 1994, right? Who do you think pushed for that?