The men made millions of dollars streaming stolen copyrighted content to tens of thousands of paid subscribers, the Justice Department said.

Five men were convicted by a federal jury in Las Vegas this week for running a large illegal streaming service called Jetflicks, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.

Kristopher Dallmann, Douglas Courson, Felipe Garcia, Jared Jaurequi, and Peter Huber began operating the subscription service as early as 2007, the Justice Department said in a release Thursday. They would find illegal copies of content online that they then downloaded to Jetflicks servers, the release said.

The men made millions of dollars streaming this content to tens of thousands of paid subscribers, according to the Justice Department.

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    stolen copyrighted content

    Reproducing is not stealing. Not in the dictionary sense. Not in the legal sense. Not at all.

    I don’t condone selling stuff without the rights, but manipulative language like that has no place in journalism. It’s pure propaganda pushed by parasitic corporations, and it undermines our collective ability to discuss and reason about the issues.

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        Digital piracy is not stealing since nothing has been lost. In fact, something was duplicated. So the term stealing is not appropriate and should not be used to describe it. Copying / duplicating copyrighted material without permission is more appropriate. Also, distributing copyrighted material without permission can be used. But not stealing, no. Even stealing potential profit is a no or we were going to have to start punishing potential crime.

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            Yes, and as I said before, if we were going to argue about lost profit then take 3D printing for example. Companies like GW don’t like it when someone uses 3D printed model. The physical plastic model itself is never stolen. In fact, someone can buy it and 3D scan it themselves and then share it. Some governments are considering banning it because it can be used to manufacture guns. Why did I compare the two? Because nothing was stolen, and in fact, something was made instead. Printing money yourself is also made illegal and you never stole someone else’s money.

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              If you recreate something that’s patented and selling it you can in fact get sued and yes the same logic applies, it’s profit the patent holder didn’t make for something the person you sold to should have bought from them.

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                Hence why I said it is not stealing

                Edit just for clarity. I said stealing potential profit explicitly. So you cannot sue for that, but rather sue for patent infringement.

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                  Just because it’s called patent infringement it doesn’t mean it’s not technically the same logic as theft that justifies it…

                  I’m using the word “technically” for a reason :p

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            Even that’s fairly debatable. The usual case of such “massive libraries of content” is that most of it isn’t even available to pay for; not provided by the content owner on any platform whatsoever (aka “vaulted”) or the content owner does not make it available in the country of the person that wants to view it.

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              If there was more content on it than on multiple streaming platforms combined, wanna bet not all of it wasn’t available?

              Anyway, it doesn’t matter, it would still mean a distributor didn’t get paid for the content they’re contracted to distribute if there’s interest for it.

              I understand the logic that “X isn’t available otherwise so it’s ok” but that’s a moral view, not a legal one.

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                Less about right/wrong, more that there are no actual damages. If you aren’t making something available for pay for and someone pirates it, you’re making the exact same amount as you would if they hadn’t: nothing.

                It’s people bitching about hypothetical money.

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                  Again, you’re assuming they had more content than multiple legit distributors and none of it was available elsewhere without proving it was the case.

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                Wage theft is the failing to pay wages or provide employee benefits owed to an employee by contract or law.". The wage is already yours to begin with. You are entitled to wage/payment for a work contract that you fulfill. The other party failing to fulfill their ends of the contract makes it theft.

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                  “by contract or law” so just like the legal copyright owner already owns the “wage” associated with the distribution of content by law and they’re entitled to a payment in exchange for the right to distribute the things they own the copyright of and a distributor failing to pay them is therefore committing theft the same way that wage theft is theft?

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        Copyright Infringement. Interesting that one of the few forms of it that’s actually a criminal offense instead of a civil liability, is also one of the few forms practiced by normal people.

        This is especially heinous in cases where no one makes money. You shouldn’t be treated like a fucking criminal for sharing art or information (unless it’s nuclear launch codes, CSAM, or some other obscenely illegal/immoral shit.)

        Because at its base form that’s all “piracy” is. An attempt to turn sharing into a bad word.

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        Not even the law uses the verb stealing. It is infringement. Nothing any digital pirate does deprives the owner of their property. Remember, if buying isn’t owning, then copying isn’t stealing.

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    More content than Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon all in one place? That’s terrible! Where can I see this dastardly collection?

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    Ahh yes, stolen digital goods are a fast conviction, it a life of crime and a US president position is a conundrum.