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    This is the same exact losing strategy the centrist democrats have been attempting to use for the last 20 years. They want “broad appeal” which basically means virtue signalling to bigoted republican voters who are going to mechanically vote for the person with the R next to their name no matter what any democrat says or does. And yet, they keep trying and turning their backs on the left as if to say, “we don’t need you to win”.

    Until these awful people are ejected from the democratic party or the DSA gains more momentum, this bullshit is just going to keep happening.

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    And people act like I’m some kind of crazy person when I say that when you resolve to vote blue no matter who, you only incentivize the blue candidates to appeal to republicans. I just didn’t expect it to be this overt

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      As an outside observer it seems like every blue is better than red, the best strategy is choosing which blue before the election.

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        For sure, but it’s hard to overstate just how much influence the DNC has. Every blue is better than every red, but by resolving to vote blue no matter what their actual positions are, we are trading short term harm reduction for long-term harm multiplication.

        Before long we’re going to have the DNC force in a candidate who wants to jail trans people, and they will be slightly preferable to the republican who wants trans people executed. I want to avoid that eventuality, and that means demonstrating that being against human rights loses you the leftist vote.

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    ITT: A whole lot of piefed, .word, and .ca accounts just go and completely mask off. They hate trans people and they want you to know it.

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      Yeah, never going to vote for someone who rejects the existence of my friends. I’ll vote for someone else and if there is no one to vote for I will draw a giant knob on the sheet in protest of the shit choices.

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      Ummm actually acknowledging reality is russian propaganda and youre only allowed to say anything mean about Democrats for about two weeks after the election. As we all know if you dont say anything negative then republicans aren’t allowed to do it either. My strategy of voting for democrats and never making any demands of them is incredibly realistic, just look at how much we’re winning and all the progressive genocide we’re doing!

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        Akshually, If all the genocidee had died quietly instead of moaning and crying so loudly, Democrats could’ve wrapped up the genocide quicker.

        Also, the anti-genocide (aka aunty-semites since Gazans are semitic people) didn’t listen to the orders of The Party. Vote Blue No Matter Who! Which is how you got Donald Trump. Donald is Not an ally of the trans people. By extension, all anti-genocide aunties of semites automatically hate trans people.

        Basically, the anti-genocide protesters are transphobic for refusing to vote blue unconditionally.

        Vote Blue No Matter Who otherwise you’re a transphobe.

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    The BEST way for Democrats to Gain Power is to Cater to People who LOVE voting Democrat! Cater to People who want to MURDER DEMOCRATS!

    -Literally Democrats!

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      Literally true when half of their voters are committed to voting for them no matter what their policies are. The actual best strategy is to move to the right. “Vote blue no matter who” was always going to lead to this

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      Sad thing is, it’s kind of true (or at least was). In a two party system, its not a bad strategy to try gain electors from the other party, as the ppl more radically from your side will vote for you rather than the other party. Now then, the political spectrum and Overton window shifted so much to the right that it is not sufficient to just exist and be the “lesser evil”.

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        Its not. In a 2-party system, the parties geneally move to equalize around a 50-50 split of the population. However, in a country where around half the eligiable voters show up, voter turnout is a much bigger lever to pull. Obama and Trump both figured that out. Alienating your base is the opposite of smart.

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        Less than half of the electorate votes, yet the democrat strategy is to try to appeal to the one group of people who make it very clear they’re going to vote for the other team.
        This is not a good strategy, as can be seen by how rarely it works (and even when it works it is by a slim margin)

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        No. It’s literally a bad strategy. Elections are about to turn out. The best way to win elections is to get your base to come out to vote. When you literally threaten their lives and threaten the lives of people they care about they’re going to stay home.

        You know why you preach to the choir? Because that’s how you get them to sing.

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          Their brilliant strategy is to come to a black church and arrogantly tell the choir “if you don’t vote blue no matter who, then you ain’t black!”

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        It depends on how they gain people from the other party. The Democrats could gain them by giving them better health-care, or fewer wars, or by making the rich pay taxes, or by providing affordable housing, or by improving their jobs.

        But the Democrat strategy is to gain them by supporting genocide, and attacking marginalized groups.

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    it’s a big tent. being open to many ideas is a good thing. being so open minded your brains fall out, not so much. finding that sweet spot where they can be inclusive, but not allow the bigots and asshats is harder than just going with bigotry as your standard - see the GOP.

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    Compromise is when there are two equally valid ways, but this is never that. One set of policies benefits the majority for healthy people and high quality of life. The other is meant to benefit the wealthy and keep the majority subservient to the owners, and worse health and life outcomes.

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    “doctor”

    EDIT: Uh-oh, she’s a pediatrician who hates trans people? I don’t like where this is going. Probably an island somewhere.

    EDIT 2: This “doctor” is almost tied in the polls with Darlene Graham https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_Senate_election_in_South_Carolina#Polling_5

    EDIT 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Andrews_(pediatrician)#Policies_and_viewpoints "In an October 5, 2026, Truth Social post, Trump used anti-LGBT slurs against Andrews, calling her “Annie Trannie”. Andrews is not transgender.[31] The post was widely condemned.[32][33] Several days after Trump’s post, Andrews released an ad saying that she opposed “biological men playing women’s sports” and would not allow “gender surgery for minors”.

    This is fucking crazy. I’ve seen others do this before. Trump threw a slur at her and she basically said “Actually, thank you Donald, I’m on your side!”

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    Transpeople are all biological males? The trans men will be pleased to hear it.

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        They know about trans men, but they view them all as easily manipulated, wayward girls, who’s fertility is being stolen by the evil trans agenda.

        Just look at the cover of Abigail Shrier’s Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters. It’s the most mask off libidinal shit you’ve ever seen

        The fact that it’s a “Craze”, that it “Seduces” and that the cover has a Norman Rockwell style image of a little girl with a gaping hole where her ostensible womb ought to be. Sigmund Freud would have a field day with this trash!!

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          I know that what I said isn’t the literal truth. I work in a relatively conservative male dominated workplace and people who bitch about trans things are ONLY bringing up M2F. It’s what they’re most worried about.

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    Folks can we please treat “trans” like the adjective it is. I’m not a “transwoman” or a “transperson” I am a woman and a person, and I am trans, I am also tall. A trans woman, a trans person. A tall woman, a tall person.

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        Its semantics but please elaborate on what you like done. Just so I know what we are talking about.

        Trans rights is clear to me. Trans people are afforded the same rights as everyone else and cant be discriminated against base on their gender identification.

        Are we saying, no funding for any country that participates is genocide? No trade?

        What if we just said america shouldnt make weapons of war? Do you even know who the neo-libs were?

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          No weapons of war, no support for any country that commits genocide. The U.S won’t ever do that because it’s an imperialist country, so their government should be hindered in their foreign policy at every opportunity.

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            Ok, but america isnt the only country to participate in imperialism. How do we protect our sovereignty from hostile imperialist countries?

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                Fuck my sovereignty… ok nm, Im not interested in your opinion.

                Anarchists arent delusional. Sorry someone gave you that impression.

                "The thing that I thought might be good for starting it off is to talk about one of the most pervasive beliefs in the general society about the nation of Islam. And that is that it is an organization dedicated to the use of violent means to attain its goals. The question I have is how true is this? And why do you think it persists in society?

                Well, the Muslims who have accepted the religion of Islam and follow the religious guidance of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad have never bombed any churches, have never murdered any little girls, as was done in Birmingham, have never lynched anybody, have never at any time been guilty of initiating any aggressive acts of violence.

                During the entire 33 years or more that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad has been teaching us, the charge of violence against us actually stems from the guilt complex that exists in the conscious and subconscious minds of most white people in this country.

                They know that they know that they have been violent in their brutality against Negroes. And they feel that someday the Negro is going to wake up and try and do unto them as they have done unto, do unto the whites as the whites have done unto us.

                We aren’t a violent group. We are taught by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad to obey the law, to respect everyone who respects us. We’re taught to display courtesy, to be polite.

                But we’re also taught that at any time anyone in any way inflicts or seeks to inflict violence upon us, we are within our religious rights to retaliate in self-defense to the maximum degree of our ability. We never initiate any violence upon anyone. We never initiate any violence upon anyone. But if anyone attacks us, we reserve the right to defend ourselves.

                So to accuse us of being violence is like accusing a man who is being lynched, who is being hung on a tree, simply because he struggles vigorously against his lyncher. The victim is accused of violence, but the lyncher is never accused of violence.

                And I only point this out because the various racist groups that are set up in this country by whites and who have actually practiced violence against blacks for 400 years are never associated or identified or made synonymous with the term violence. But whites speak of Muslims almost synonymously with violence. Whenever Muslims are mentioned by them, violence is brought up.

                But not, but it’s not connected with any other group. This is a sort of a propaganda tactic or what I would call psychological warfare to in some way make the image of the Muslims in this country be a violent image rather than a religious image."

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    When this bitch lose the first voting block theyll throw under the bus is transfolk.

    I used to get so angry that minorities would vote against their interest in dems, but then I started to work towards becoming a better ally and realized how infuriating it must be for these privileged fucking centrists constantly vote against minority group interests and then beg minorities to show up when Trump started negatively impacting everyone’s way of life. When will the lesson be learned that we all do better when we all support one another?

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      I am a little frustrated, because I’ve been saying for like 3 years. If they didn’t stop at genocide than they’ll be nothing they won’t compromise on. Back in 2023 I was arguing with other trans people saying that the liberals weren’t on their side and they would throw them under the bus the moment it became politically acceptable to do so. Being dependent on a liberal party is more like being held hostage instead of gaining actual power.

      Constantly chastising people that they have to support liberal politics anyway, even if they’re doing imperialism (which isn’t at all new), just normalizes that those horrible things will always happen and cannot be changed, they’re just politically acceptable. Like it actually makes me feel like I’m going insane that genocide has become a normal, acceptable position, that we’ve realized after Palestine that most of the entire establishment are a bunch of Holden Bloodfeasts and things just keep going. Like, no, we’re frogs in a pot of water being boiled. Imperialism isn’t normal or okay.

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        the liberals weren’t on their side and they would throw them under the bus the moment it became politically acceptable to do so

        So you decided to ally with Trump instead?

        US elections are a zero sum game with two sides and only two sides

        That means all anti-dem propaganda in the election is pro-rep propaganda

        If you’re saying to support socialists like Abdul in the primaries, I agree with you. But you’re not saying that. You’re saying not to trust Dems to be any better than Reps. That’s Rep propaganda. The rules of the game say you’re accidentally helping Trump.

        There will never be a third party, the maths on FPTP don’t support it. And you’re not campaigning for voter reply reform. You’re campaigning for people to abstain and let Trump have two more years of supermajority.

        You’ve already had a chance to educate yourself on the maths of FPTP. Whether your bad faith is moral or intellectual doesn’t matter, you’re a fascist collaborator and you’re attacking our rights as trans people. I have family in America and I don’t want them to die, so be quiet.

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          This is liberal yaKKKubian tricknology make people believe that advocating for dual power is a bad thing. I’m not impressed that you’re quite literally trying to emotionally manipulate people into thinking that if you don’t support the Dems they’re murderers or some shit. That only makes sense if you collapse of all reality into two outcomes “democrats win” and “republicans win.” That’s like absolutely defeatist, believing the only options that exist are government approved ones. that kind of attitude will let horrors go on forever without ever being challenged, I would genuinely rather die than just lie down and accept that. I support worker power so that both parties can’t oppress us and we can stop them from terrorizing the rest of the world.

          Shut up about your votes, I know you’re being manipulative. You say that they’re the lesser evil, but I guarantee you actually like liberals and just want people to stop talking about how they also kill people.

          I AM trans, and no government has never actually supported me, I seriously doubt the effectiveness of the legal system in helping us, I got my medication from mutual aid, and other trans people are how I survive, the liberal party where I live has done none of this, the government’s medical care is basically our enemy, I’ve been underdosed for years by my endocrinologist. You shut the fuck up about trans people. I disapprove of using our name to support genocidal liberals.

          You are the fascist collaborator. Fuck the democrats, and fuck AmeriKKKa. I have friends in Iran and Lebanon and I don’t want them to die. I’ve never seen Americans get shredded to pieces by bombs and displaced by the millions, all of you fucking Westerners will be fine by comparison even if the Republicans win again, you’ll do fine. Maybe you people deserve to see just a fraction of what that’s like after supporting it.

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            Mutual aid is great! But we’re talking about an election in two days. If you write the name of the mutual aid group on your ballot, you’ve abstained.

            People with the vision and strategy to do the right thing at the right time do mutual aid. People like us distribute hormones. People like you just complain on the internet. I’m glad that we strategists got you those hormones, but it doesn’t make you a warrior. It just makes you alive.

            So if you’re not going to attend a protest or paint a crosswalk or run in a primary or get an over prescription, please be quiet and let the strategists work. We don’t need you making our work harder. It’s not gonna be as easy to distribute hormones if Trump declares martial law, and that’s what you’ve been helping.

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              The strategists decided that the best course of action is to tell anti-genocide protesters to stfu about genocide and vote blue no matter who. As well as yelling at genocidee to stfu and get genocided quietly.

              Brilliant strategy. Did you guys try “Orange Man Bad” or telling voters “If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.” Or not yet?

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                You’re not an anti-genocide protester, you’re a lying whinger. In order to be a protester, you have to actually get out of your bed and go to a protest. This isn’t a protest, it’s a whinge. And it may well be a successful whinge in its goal of getting people to stay home so Trump can run for a third term and you can have that trans genocide you’re desperate for.

                So of course I’m getting to tell you to STFU, you genocide supporter. Every minute you’re arguing with Me in the bowels of this comment section is a minute you’re not talking to potential voters. You’re never going to stop trying to kill trans people, but at least you can be trying to talk Me into killing My family instead of someone who might listen to your lies.

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                  Right. We’re all supposed to ignore the actual genocide carried out under the supervision and support of the Democrats and pretend anyone not willing to blindly support the genocide enabling democratic party is “desperate for trans genocide” lol.

                  Do you know if Democrats regret stealing the presidency from Bernie Sanders?

        • These are midterms. Every election is local. Every district has different candidates. Unless you have points about a specific race, you’re not discussing the election, just partisan vibes. FPTP is applied to each individual race, not the aggregate that make up legislatures.

          A transphobe is not on our side regardless of their listed party preference. In my experience, bigots never pick party over prejudice. I live in america and care about my own safety. FPTP is an insidius system that forces us to pick the least bad option.

          I don’t think its a good thing to be accusing other politically engaged trans people of being fascists for making the best choice they are able given the specifics of of their ballot just because it goes against your broad strokes view that ignores them.

          Have some sympathy for your siblings these are bad times for us.

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      Trans people ain’t abstaining on Tuesday, it’ll be the cis people who are willing to let us all die so they can feel like the purest ally.

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        There’s going to be a lot of people that don’t vote for various reasons, and while I want them all to vote, I understand that the opposition isn’t doing enough to make encourage people to vote.

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          I believe in free will. People are responsible for their own actions. Joe Biden is a shithead, but he doesn’t have a mind control beam to force people to stay home.

          That’s why I believe trans people will vote in greater proportion than cis people.

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      Ever stop to think that maybe she’s not a Democrat but running as one? Do you seriously think MAGA and the republicans are above planting their own amongst us??

      Divisionism is what wins them elections. And divisionism is what is preached here every fucking day. That’s what I’m fucking tired of.

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        Well if she’s a republican plant then what’s the problem with not voting for her?

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          There’s not even a little problem with not voting for her. The point is that people are holding her beliefs against the entire party like idiots.

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            Well I can agree with that. It is more of the party than I’m comfortable with certainly, but not all.

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        If you think this bitch is a republican plant based on her transphobia then whewwwww buddy are you gonna be shocked when you discover how many top ranking dems are actually Republicans.

        Calling out bigotry is not divisionism. The big tent party has enough room for everyone that wants to join, the only problem is there are too many empty chairs reserved for moderate Republicans that don’t like trump, as a result, there’s no seats for trans folk.